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From Alexander Shraer <shra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: a misunderstanding of ZAB
Date Tue, 03 Sep 2019 17:34:44 GMT
In case2, it is possible that p1 is committed or dropped. It depends on
whether L2 knows about p1.
Note that L2 needs the support of a quorum to become leader, and in ZK
since there is no state copy from followers to leader, the leader candidate
needs to have the longest log.
So, if L2's log includes p1 it will be committed otherwise it will be

In case1 L2's log necessarily includes p1 since it is present at a quorum
and without having it in the log its not possible to have a log more
up-to-date than that of a quorum / get the support of a quorum to become


On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 4:52 AM Norbert Kalmar <nkalmar@cloudera.com.invalid>

> Hi,
> That's a good question. So if I understand correctly, you are asking what
> happens if there is a new Leader Election in ZooKeeper, what is the "last
> seen zxid". I checked the ZAB protocol, it is not entirely clear for me as
> well, but my understanding is that the last seen zxid is the last
> transaction, which is read from txnlogs in case of a recovery. Honestly,
> there's nothing else this could be read from. So if it hasn't been
> committed to the datatree (and that exists in memory anyway, at least until
> a snapshot is taken), it is still the last txn that is logged by one of the
> followers, so he will win the Leader Election, and the followers will get
> this txn as well.
> Anyone agree/disagree? :)
> Regards,
> Norbert
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 4:50 AM 121476721@qq.com <121476721@qq.com> wrote:
> > hi, i'm a new to zookeeper, and this problem confuses me for nearly two
> > months...
> > papers tell me that zab must satisfy:
> > A message delivered by one sever must be delivered on quorum.
> > A message skipped must always be skipped.
> > Then consider two cases below, L is short for leader, F is short for
> > follower, p is short for proposal.
> > Case1:
> > L send p1 to F2 F3 F4 F5.
> > F2 F3 ack p1, reach a quorum.
> > L1 is about to send commit but failed...
> > L2 become new leader, he should commit.
> >
> > Case2:
> > L1 send p1 to F2 F3 F4 F5.
> > Only F2 ack p1, not reach a quorum.
> > Then L1 failed...
> > L2 become new leader, he should skip p1.
> >
> > i think L2 should handle the cases in election&recovery phase. but how L2
> > can know the global state and decide if commit p1 or skip p1?
> > if anyone helps, i will be much appreciate.
> >
> >
> >
> > 121476721@qq.com
> >

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