Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-zookeeper-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-zookeeper-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86B4B107C8 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26687 invoked by uid 500); 27 Aug 2013 08:54:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-zookeeper-user-archive@zookeeper.apache.org Received: (qmail 26358 invoked by uid 500); 27 Aug 2013 08:54:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@zookeeper.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@zookeeper.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@zookeeper.apache.org Received: (qmail 25829 invoked by uid 99); 27 Aug 2013 08:54:31 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:54:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,URI_HEX X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [77.238.189.206] (HELO nm17-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com) (77.238.189.206) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:54:24 +0000 Received: from [77.238.189.231] by nm17.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2013 08:54:04 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.77] by tm12.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2013 08:54:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Aug 2013 08:54:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1377593644; bh=5lT8ieN8pp+3qxAvms7UTbRY+DVJZQZIfZNCW3cbN9Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Language:Thread-Index; b=4/CqCXNkO7FacOsDJTnXF3BQ8AdF2VhbakAQ+r/rsXCuTrPA4G4ewoOWgRToWOl3OZCIk5GRgf+MBXoi/lkiImLmve9TH8eSWThAfE80CfQSXj3VuZeTw7hih/rJu8kSNaGkGR7WZVh2kKeKpV4ZLUu7F/77thF4rIbGICxyFPg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 96832.67593.bm@smtp114.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: IxcVIk8VM1nHpjj7H6Vjzh27Y4hJ.iuMxdOy5kgtbivUD3o RQitYqgm8gMDkhSD19uXGXUn5gtEVD4FhihcKPIG7FDiB7quXve4LbEUYlQv i4PTUx_kWCcBf6x_LJeymMGcjHeNETeLoUzJGPHQdIIIWYkn7uHD9iT5ORlX NAx2RrL8.CWiENnHrACoa936otlRjCDAegoOLChFpwaRDtvJe5ApgDEv.uDX MxtjsgVMtudzuT75IFy0oF4A_gZloqODQOTzHYE9m7I4L3i_uWtazZN2fA5S .ijzRWBGxAFqOwbMqLeOLyoB5wsigNLcSY_nAC.o95iU3tYo0K45WNZ3Tgok 7XlCUJgGttf47Jmj7zAgqMKZNRoYbgfuyNC2qmvpO.PELnrG8kwYCwAi2mqQ SCLnHUFdrjXut09BOHFLNHliWUfbEDORhEC9Y1BNSln7vF7zYsOa.XjCK4ne SrALJOr_dcyYq9lCUIfH3lAcEZnN4ZjtPYOiI6hBZj3EZi9Cov1PJ9pz4gpO z6As61OaCVhcaJcR901twgoJgzB556QMm9bm7Y0DM7ODirYLwL8eUQI1XtDg UNeo2ztVB_FRFGXRpvYh4OE_M99un7MoKVDrkP4FOvyONFEAjIprZS7GiIpn VJCIWvzQx6oupW0lxky9HP0w0t5z3C38QQEQbatBvzpCq3s4qXyzw4SQebPB IEWs7V1QTihME.XuQW95qk6d0hvp2YkbaVTkbn4cIgz7o.X99neNnWyJ2Uos r7URMh0UxmZiB6o7kSCWkUyAk0zEqwp6gsECih9znG58aqfsAJQnVs035Rq8 5Qnhr0nlnG_VvtHOkR9sD_UO93A3E5Q-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HT5UJDeswBACWJPOeualxAa.da..S.fl X-Rocket-Received: from MSRCfpj (fpjunqueira@94.245.87.231 with ) by smtp114.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2013 08:54:04 +0000 UTC From: "FPJ" To: References: <1377550937209-7579027.post@n2.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Zoo Keep widely distributed? Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:54:03 +0100 Message-ID: <007a01cea302$fb5ed000$f21c7000$@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 15.0 Content-Language: en-gb Thread-Index: AQGsCxC9A9Fe5u5QNMSBTk13BnUn/AJVN+3GmdtDTdA= X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I assume that when you say across LANs you mean different colos, although I suppose what I'm about to say holds even if the assumption is incorrect. The overall performance depends on your read:write ratio. Since reads are local to a server, they don't cross the boundaries of a colo. You could also consider using observers to avoid the penalty of coordinating across colos for writes to the zookeeper state. Consider reading this blog post by Camille Fournier: http://whilefalse.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/building-global-highly-available.ht ml -Flavio > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Kou [mailto:bitanarch@gmail.com] > Sent: 27 August 2013 07:19 > To: user@zookeeper.apache.org > Subject: Re: Zoo Keep widely distributed? > > The latency will make your writes really slow - since each write operation > would need to be confirmed by more than half of your total number of > servers in the cluster to succeed. Writes to ZooKeeper are also serialized, so > you can't parallelize the writes in a single cluster either - so your throughput > will also be low. > > You can still get high throughput despite the high latency if you can shard > your writes into multiple clusters though. > > Best Regards, > Martin Kou > > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM, wayne.rasmuss < > wayne.rasmuss@perceptivesoftware.com> wrote: > > > I think zoo keeper looks very handy, but I would like to have a pretty > > good idea if it can work well/at all across different LANs. I would > > expect to have to establish a way for the members of the ensemble to > > talk to each other, but having to open a bunch of ports to multiple > > hosts would be a show stopper. Also, I'm wondering how the latency > > will effect overall performance. > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://zookeeper-user.578899.n2.nabble.com/Zoo-Keep-widely- > distributed > > -tp7579027.html Sent from the zookeeper-user mailing list archive at > > Nabble.com. > >