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From Benjamin Reed <br...@yahoo-inc.com>
Subject Re: Contrib section (nee Re: A modest proposal for simplifying zookeeper :)
Date Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:21:15 GMT
just to be clear: i'm not a maven fan, but i'm not sure anything else is 
better. buildr looks better flexibility wise, but i think maven is much 
more popular and mature. with ivy we are still stuck with ant build files.


Patrick Hunt wrote:
> Ben, you might want to look at buildr, it recently graduated from the 
> apache incubator:
> http://buildr.apache.org/
> "Buildr is a build system for Java applications. We wanted something 
> that’s simple and intuitive to use, so we only need to tell it what to 
> do, and it takes care of the rest. But also something we can easily 
> extend for those one-off tasks, with a language that’s a joy to use. And 
> of course, we wanted it to be fast, reliable and have outstanding 
> dependency management."
> Also Ivy just released version 2.0.
> If you have a specific idea and would like to start working on this 
> please create a JIRA to discuss/track/vote/etc... Be aware that the 
> contribution process, release process and other documentation would have 
> to be updated as part of this. For example if we want to push jars to an 
> artifact repo the artifacts/pom/etc... would have to be voted on as part 
> of the release process.
> Patrick
> Benjamin Reed wrote:
>> i'm ready to reevaluate it. i did the contrib for fatjar and it was 
>> extremely painful! (and that was an extremely simple contrib!) we really 
>> want to ramp up the contribs and get a bunch of recipe implementations 
>> in, so we need something that makes it really easy. i'm not a fan of 
>> maven (they seem to have chosen a convention that is convenient for the 
>> build tool rather the developer), but it is widely used and i we need 
>> something better, so i'm certainly considering it.
>> ben
>> Anthony Urso wrote:
>>> Speaking of the contrib section, what is the status of ZOOKEEPER-103?
>>> Is it ready to be reevaluated now that 3.0 is out?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anthony
>>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Mahadev Konar <mahadev@yahoo-inc.com>

>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>  It would be great to have such high level interfaces. It could be
>>>> something that you could contribute :) . We havent had the bandwidth to
>>>> provide such interfaces for zookeeper. It would be great to have all 
>>>> such
>>>> recipes as a part of contrib package of zookeeper.
>>>> mahadev
>>>> On 1/9/09 11:44 AM, "Kevin Burton" <burton@spinn3r.com> wrote:
>>>>> OK.... so it sounds from the group that there are still reasons to 
>>>>> provide
>>>>> rope in ZK to enable algorithms like leader election.
>>>>> Couldn't ZK ship higher level interfaces for leader election, mutexes,
>>>>> semapores, queues, barriers, etc instead of pushing this on developers?
>>>>> Then the remaining APIs, configuration, event notification, and 
>>>>> discovery,
>>>>> can be used on a simpler, rope free API.
>>>>> The rope is what's killing me now :)
>>>>> Kevin

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