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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:17:11 -0400
From: "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>
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Subject: Re: Incorporating Jakarta library in my program
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Hendrik Maryns
<hendrik.maryns@uni-tuebingen.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read the license itself,
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#WhatDoesItMEAN and
> some more links, but things are still not clear to me.  I am afraid the
> FAQ needs to be even more specific.  Particularly, Wikipedia
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_License states
>
> The ASF approved an update to the Apache License 2.0 in January 2004.
> The stated goals of the license included making the license easier for
> non-ASF projects to use, improving compatibility with GPL-based
> software, allowing the license to be included by reference instead of
> listed in every file, clarifying the license on contributions, and
> requiring a patent license on contributions that necessarily infringe a
> contributor's own patents.[2]
>
> But I can't find this in the license.  I would be very grateful for
> this, since I made a generic version of Jakarta Commons CLI, which means
> I edited about every file in the package, and inserting a line that I
> edited them would not only be cumbersome, it would also make it
> inconvenient if I wanted to make patches to submit to the project.  But
> I still want to include it with my program.
>
> I only use 6 classes from the package, but I will include the whole jar
> in my own jar.
>
> The license said that I have to include the file called LICENSE in the
> top directory of my program, but that would give the (incorrect!)
> impression that I want to release my program under the Apache license as
> well, whereas it is GPLv3.  Also, do I really have to copy the NOTICE
> file over there, can't I include its contents in e.g. the AUTHORS file
> which I already have, following the example from GNU projects?
>
> E.g. I have in AUTHORS:
>
> The command line interface uses the Jakarta CLI library from the Apache
> Software
> Foundation[3], adapted to generics and other Java 5 features by Hendrik.
>
> and in THANKS:
>
> Used libraries and programs:
>  Mona                   <mona@brics.dk>
>  Jakarta CLI    <http://commons.apache.org/cli/index.html>
>
> Doesn't this suffice?

You note above what the license requires.  What you describe below
that is different than what the license requires, so the short answer
is no.

You might find the following to be helpful: http://lwn.net/Articles/248223/

> Cheers, H.
> --
> Hendrik Maryns
> Herrenberger Stra=DFe 40
> D-72070 T=FCbingen
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- Sam Ruby

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