Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 41057 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 21:05:03 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 21:05:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 52308 invoked by uid 500); 4 Aug 2006 21:05:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 52075 invoked by uid 500); 4 Aug 2006 21:05:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 52063 invoked by uid 99); 4 Aug 2006 21:05:02 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:05:02 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [64.74.244.70] (HELO smtp.ivresearch.com) (64.74.244.70) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:05:00 -0700 Received: (qmail 30295 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2006 21:04:39 -0000 Received: from ool-43560edb.dyn.optonline.net (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (geir@67.86.14.219) by vdmx01.ivresearch.net with SMTP; 4 Aug 2006 21:04:39 -0000 Message-ID: <44D3B66A.8090304@apache.org> Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:04:42 -0400 From: Geir Magnusson Jr Reply-To: geirm@apache.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel John Debrunner CC: legal-discuss@apache.org Subject: Re: Derby and the JCP References: <44D3AD3C.1000503@sun.com> <44D3B55A.7050203@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <44D3B55A.7050203@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > Rick Hillegas wrote: > >> "This is an application written to interoperate >> with an early-draft specification developed under the >> Java Community Process (JCP) and is made available for >> testing and evaluation purposes only. The code is not >> compatible with any specification of the JCP." >> >> We need your guidance: >> >> 1) Does this notice conflict with the Apache 2.0 license? >> >> 2) In particular, does this notice conflict with the AS IS clause of the >> Apache 2.0 license? > > 3) Is the restriction "made available for testing and evaluation > purposes only" acceptable for an ASF project? > (assuming that it means the restriction is on the application, not the > spec). Before we wander down into the rathole the question implies - namely : 1) who from the project was able to accept the license of the spec in a way that binds the ASF? 2)the code existed in the ASF repo before the spec was publicly available, so it's even arguable that we didn't use the spec to create the code. - lets see if we can get Sun to simply fix it by removing use restrictions in the spec license. (I do like #2 - that we had the code before the spec was released :) geir --------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: Discussions on this list are informational and educational only. Statements made on this list are not privileged, do not constitute legal advice, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and policies of the ASF. See for official ASF policies and documents. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org