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From Marshall Schor <...@schor.com>
Subject Re: Adding relations in a CAS
Date Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:20:23 GMT

On 7/12/2012 2:47 AM, bp.untn@gmail.com wrote:
> Dear Marshall,
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Marshall Schor <msa@schor.com> wrote:
>
>> The document analyzer has a "feature" that only shows types that are
>> declared to
>> be "outputs" in the capabilities section of the descriptor that it is
>> running.
>>
> Yes, we discovered that "feature". But thanks for mentioning that, I think
> this is useful also for others.
>
> However, our question of how and whether non-Annotation-derived types are
> visualized in the document analyzer is still not really answered.

I don't recall exactly (would need to read the source code...) but I think that
the document analyzer is only set up to show feature structures that are
annotations.  You can use other tools, such as the CVD tool which I think has an
ability to show all the feature structures, instead of the Document Analyzer. 

-Marshall
>
> We set both the mention type and the relation itself as output in
> the capabilities page.
>
> However, if we run the document analyzer, the relation is only 'visible'
> whenever we make Relation a subtype of Annotation and set the end/begin of
> the relation to the end/begin of the mention, respectively. But this
> obviously  implies that for the relation the whole substring between the
> two mentions is highlighted, and not just (as we would wish) the two
> mentions themselves (as an annotation has only one end/begin).
> On the contrary, if we don't set the end/begin of the relation, then it's
> not shown at all, not even despite the fact that the relations' two
> features (the two entities) have each begin/end properly set. In more
> detail, the "relation" checkbox is shown, but by enabling it nothing is
> 'highlighted'
> The same holds if we make Relation a subclass of TOP directly, still with
> two features (mention1 and mention2 which are Annotation types with proper
> begin/end set). We don't see it in the document analzyer.
>
> Thus, is it the case that such 'abstract' types (with what I mean
> non-Annotation-derived types and hence types without begin/end) are simply
> not shown in the document analyzer?
> (thus to 'see' them we have to use the debugger?) We'd simply like to find
> out if this is the case or we do miss something.
>
> Here is an illustration from the UIMA which shows what we'd like to have:
> http://uima.apache.org/d/uimaj-2.4.0/overview_and_setup.html#ugr.ovv.conceptual.aes_annotators_and_analysis_results
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> B.
>
>
>> So - just add the types you wish to show to that.  See
>>
>> http://uima.apache.org/d/uimaj-2.4.0/tutorials_and_users_guides.html#ugr.tug.aae.testing_your_annotator
>> and scroll to the bottom of the section and read the "Note".
>>
>> -Marshall
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/2012 8:43 AM, bp.untn@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Burn Lewis <burnlewis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We created a type system for a project that included entries for
>> Relations
>>>> and RelationMentions ... you may wish to check GaleEntityTypes.xml in
>> the
>>>> GALE Multi-Modal Example in the Apache UIMA Addons and Sandbox.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for this hint.
>>>> You may find it easier to view TOP-derived types such as Relation with
>> the
>>>> CAS Visual Debugger
>>>>
>>> But is it actually the case that the document Analyzer visualizes
>>> only Annotation-derived types?
>>> Thus any TOP-derived type (like Relation) will not be shown in the
>> document
>>> Analyzer, even though it might contain references to Annotation-derived
>>> types (like the two entity mentions that contain begin/end tokens)?
>>>
>>> Hence, to actually visualize TOP-derived types I need to use the CAS
>> visual
>>> debugger, there's no way to have them in the document analyzer?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> B.
>>>
>>>
>>>> ~Burn.
>>>>
>>
>>


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