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Fri, 8 Nov 2019 22:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Getting Tomcat internal logging working To: users@tomcat.apache.org References: <227d3b65-caa4-7759-3135-d158d63d2403@christopherschultz.net> <7ba27590-25fe-c47a-f614-dfabedbee22c@christopherschultz.net> <1153eb0e-d5ff-5c78-a099-1ff963533d96@apache.org> <02d45e8a-6f7d-c744-76af-390f454440ad@christopherschultz.net> From: Mark Thomas Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=markt@apache.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBEq0DukBEAD4jovHOPJDxoD+JnO1Go2kiwpgRULasGlrVKuSUdP6wzcaqWmXpqtOJKKw W2MQFQLmg7nQ9RjJwy3QCbKNDJQA/bwbQT1F7WzTCz2S6vxC4zxKck4t6RZBq2dJsYKF0CEh 6ZfY4dmKvhq+3istSoFRdHYoOPGWZpuRDqfZPdGm/m335/6KGH59oysn1NE7a2a+kZzjBSEg v23+l4Z1Rg7+fpz1JcdHSdC2Z+ZRxML25eVatRVz4yvDOZItqDURP24zWOodxgboldV6Y88C 3v/7KRR+1vklzkuA2FqF8Q4r/2f0su7MUVviQcy29y/RlLSDTTYoVlCZ1ni14qFU7Hpw43KJ tgXmcUwq31T1+SlXdYjNJ1aFkUi8BjCHDcSgE/IReKUanjHzm4XSymKDTeqqzidi4k6PDD4j yHb8k8vxi6qT6Udnlcfo5NBkkUT1TauhEy8ktHhbl9k60BvvMBP9l6cURiJg1WS77egI4P/8 2oPbzzFiGFqXyJKULVgxtdQ3JikCpodp3f1fh6PlYZwkW4xCJLJucJ5MiQp07HAkMVW5w+k8 Xvuk4i5quh3N+2kzKHOOiQCDmN0sz0XjOE+7XBvM1lvz3+UarLfgSVmW8aheLd7eaIl5ItBk 8844ZJ60LrQ+JiIqvqJemxyIM6epoZvY5a3ZshZpcLilC5hW8QARAQABtCJNYXJrIEUgRCBU aG9tYXMgPG1hcmt0QGFwYWNoZS5vcmc+iQI3BBMBCgAhBQJKtA7pAhsDBQsJCAcDBRUKCQgL BRYCAwEAAh4BAheAAAoJEBDAHFovYFnn2YgQAKN6FLG/I1Ij3PUlC/XNlhasQxPeE3w2Ovtt weOQPYkblJ9nHtGH5pNqG2/qoGShlpI04jJy9GxWKOo7NV4v7M0mbVlCXVgjdlvMFWdL7lno cggwJAFejQcYlVtxyhu4m50LBvBunEhxCbQcKnnWmkB7Ocm0Ictaqjc9rCc1F/aNhVMUpJ0z G1kyTp9hxvN6TbCQlacMx5ocTWzL0zn6QZhbUfrYwfxYJmSnkVYZOYzXIXIsLN5sJ9Q4P8tj Y4qWgd+bQvOqPWrkzL9LVRnGOrSYIsoM5zWdoj1g1glMzK/ZqJdRqqqBhe6FYTbXipz8oX8i mCebcaxZnfLhGiqqX+yDa3YUwDiqom+sZOc0iXGvKkqltPLpNeF0MVT7aZjalsQ/v2Ysb24R Ql9FfjfWmvT8ZPWz8Kore1AI4UcIIgFVtM+zuLlL9CIsGjg+gHDE2dhZDY0qfizlHL9CoAWU DM3pIfxM2V4BRn1xO+j/mModhjmYLZvnFVz4KGkNO7wRkofAANIWYo3WI5x83BGDH371t3NR rrpSSFP0XpQX6/Leaj2j6U6puABL2qBxhscsO6chc3u4/+019ff+peZVsc9ttcTQXsKIujmM b8p2sk5usmv6PKVX3oW/RAxpbVHU5kZ5px1Hq7mMQdZfLs5ff4YymXBH02z4/RmSzPam0Xb5 uQINBEq0DukBEADCNEkws5YroBmbu8789Xf006gTl5LzD/Hdt3sAp9iCfPgucO+l7U+xbo1X HTMJQwEVfS+Rx3RbaLYRG+hU7FuJLQB/5NaCDNRuqw5KHyQtJUH+zo84IqqfMzG8aOSdHg1y r2xKH4QTmgQONBu/W0xEZmZro6TjYNwkk2pwXK2yuImZPUOy+mK1qF8Wm3hTtkPE+FFSNFIa eHDoTGmx/0Riu/K7dNJTrC0TlRpn2K6d60zB53YYTc+0DYSDyB0FupXiAx/+XEGn3Q7eNi2B V6w50v5r51QP8zptiFflMfFKNAfV8xS5MteQd98YS5qqd/LPo3gS5HFPQaSL0k3RTClv7fQN HcZFqmv0OWpix6zm2npYxhqsTDGeSa52/uXehVXF5JubYFifMSLpbGVZqdrmG5hr2cycxsjF iY0zJOaRitmN/JWbOGLiwrcN4ukKNyFntFG5jPaFnJdx9rHfyJNeF9cgv9JlZeFxJ6WqIAhl KOuH3K8/py0SPE6ZOFfRo0YUxvh25K/siOcPLm613aOxyY7YfQ8ME2vgn7I0mAtg9am+YFDa bGqj839odwZdzZv2T2mUHnybFTJFBuMWGWKYstYDS6eZEmhupbPvUKkDug/mO+gdo+pSKF9Y S6DM5RtCdTNJq4NZY50ypBb5RSj+INHPocIp2V/DDTbzySsu6wARAQABiQIfBBgBCgAJBQJK tA7pAhsMAAoJEBDAHFovYFnnLe0P/i34oK5cE2LlqUEITEcTO94x1EX0UmtKokRfQ3AYWK8X eFD8cmSty72hMkL+1c0V//4Qc53SUyLIWXk8FKWF7hdL3zyuBqlRb55721CYC35GA/jR90p0 k1vr701gaat2cNTOVC0/6H9cE5yYXT+zMr9TSiKCDwONhhSbmAJZc6X0fgsmCD7I5xUI5Vri hN/Wx0CZBtrXGUyE4hgFaYSGptZmkY5Ln1e+nI185Bda7bpLwcAIGrI9nYtVXgf71ybGKdPP tFfXIoPXuctn99M7NnWBhNuGDms2YWkOC7eeWBTxKkZDWR3vRmRy52B6GxR7USk/KXs7yqGP kfT/c4CZFfOurZUXXuC3PvOme0DQmqwExtJormoG4Fy6suEFPrfhYMigTy7kSbVTCOBMjQLH +U/FFNshvg9+M/ZvaKT+0lpRvBSuG5ngsC0bO0xWsXhb6qfH2h53g4VcwFvCBL5IfqgAeUbC nGGHNcGWpmwdeb7D7ahrNZSHEUUYR7lTbjkYS01/QDOcEwNZOqDRIJUQOOUq35721VeROkdh ZmMZtFlsQeQJsWoqGrQo/kEYicVlMVOgjmOOzOa5fRb/IqlGlBn4a4me3hWthLLtMy+OOEim 6ENjntVTBQiTP/YqrxWDbCkaD7b2e9wY5N3JlRxMIQHfcHaND3PRdQSn7oHYXmJl Message-ID: <3f77b726-791a-517b-ae86-d04d98b14eb5@apache.org> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 22:23:06 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <02d45e8a-6f7d-c744-76af-390f454440ad@christopherschultz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mark, > > On 11/8/19 11:54, Mark Thomas wrote: >> +1 but please use debug. Tomcat generally doesn't use trace. The >> expectation is that debug enables all logging. > > Really? I'm happy to use whatever you guys recommend, but this will do > things like: > > log.debug("Generating new CSRF nonce for session " + sessionId + ": > " nonceValue); > > ... > > log.debug("Evicting CSRF nonce for session " + sessionId + ": " + > nonceValue); > > ... > > log.debug("Rejecting request for " + requestURI + " to session " + > sessionId + " for invalid CSRF nonce: " + nonceValue); > > That's .... super chatty. I suppose you can always set the .level for > this class specifically. Indeed. "Super chatty" is consistent with how log levels are currently used. > In my own code, I tend to differentiate between trace and debug in > this way: > > 1. TRACE tells you everything that happens > 2. DEBUG tells you when something out of the ordinary happens > > In the above examples, TRACE would apply (using my policy) to the > "generating" and "evicting" messages, but DEBUG would apply when > logging the rejection of the request. We don't (currently) make the distinction in the Tomcat code. There might be a few places where trace is used but they are rare. Generally, the approach I tend to work to is if there is a (potential) bug for which you have a repeatable test case, enabling debug logging should be sufficient for you to work out what is going on. I guess it makes little different to me to set level to FINE or ALL so if you prefer to split debug() and trace() then I can live with that. But at this point I don;t see the need so I'll likely to continue to use debug(). Mark --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tomcat.apache.org