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From Rémy Maucherat <r...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Tomcat next and Jakarta EE
Date Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:21:37 GMT
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 10:51 AM Mark Thomas <markt@apache.org> wrote:

> On 27/11/2019 23:19, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>
> <snip/>
>
> > Well, it sounds pretty good to me but the numbers are off and it's going
> > to be very very confusing. It pretty much has to be:
> > Tomcat X supporting Jakarta EE X
> > Tomcat X-1 supporting Jakarta EE X-1
> > Tomcat X-2 supporting Jakarta EE X-2
> > And Tomcat 9.X supporting Java EE 8 with the same Tomcat API as Tomcat X
> > [I understand the rationale for this to be able to achieve very long
> > term support - and I expect the API changes will likely be rather small
> > anyway -, for example 8.5 and 9.0 have diverged too much to keep 8.5
> > more stable, while if we had a 8.6 "trunk" to simply replace it
> > eventually we could have kept in strict sync with 9.0]
>
> I like it.
>
> > The only problem then (but it's a big one) is to accommodate the Tomcat
> > "10" supporting Jakarta EE 9 somewhere. Maybe 9.9 can be used for that
> > but it will still pollute a bit the 9.x message, it could be labelled as
> > a "Jakarta preview" or something maybe. Jakarta EE 9 is a useless
> > release anyway, nobody will use it and that Tomcat could almost be EOLed
> > immediately after a Jakarta EE 10 release.
>
> Hmm. Tricky.
>
> How about something like this?
>
> 10.0.0.M1 Jakarta EE 9
> 10.0.0.M2 Jakarta EE 9
> 10.0.0 Jakarta EE 9 stable
> 10.0.1.M1 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1.M2 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1.M3 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1.M4 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1.M5 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.0.1 Jakarta EE 9 some urgent bug fix
> 10.0.1.M6 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1.M7 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1.M8 Jakarta EE 10 dev
> 10.0.1    Jakarta EE 10 stable
> ...
> 10.0.n    Jakarta EE 10 stable / Tomcat 10 stable / 10.0.0 is EOL
>

Good idea, I like it too. That Jakarta EE 9 is the ultimate transition
release so it would be fitting if it had the most transitional Tomcat
branch.

Are we done already ? That was fast :)

Rémy

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