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From Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Jakarta EE TCKs and compatibility logo
Date Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:56:01 GMT
Switching hats and speaking as a Tomcat committer.

My experience is that folks expect Tomcat to follow the spec and want to
know that it does. However, formal certification (or lack of it) hasn't
seemed to be a big deal for our users in recent years. I don't know how
much of that is because end users care more about actual behaviour than
formal certification and how much it is because they understand the
historical issues between the ASF and Sun/Oracle over access to the TCKs.

Maybe those expectations will change with the specs moving to Eclipse.

If the community wants to see the compatibility logo then I have no
objection as the requirements don't seem very onerous.

Mark


On 18/01/2019 22:53, Mark Thomas wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am writing to your dev@ lists (on BCC) as your project has, in the
> past, requested access to the Java EE TCKs while they were controlled by
> Sun and then Oracle.
> 
> As I am sure you are aware, Java EE has moved to Eclipse and is now
> Jakarta EE. The good news is that the TCKs have been open sourced.
> 
> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck
> 
> (I haven't tried to build the latest TCK from source yet but it is on my
> TODO list.)
> 
> Shipping compatible implementations of the Jakarta EE specs (and being
> able to make public statements to that effect) will be subject only to
> the spec [1] and TCK [2] licenses. There will no longer be a TCK
> agreement or NDA to sign. However...
> 
> The question has arisen whether or not any ASF projects will want to use
> the Jakarta EE compatible logo [3]. If a project wants to be able to do
> this, there are some organisational hoops to jump through. Before the
> ASF starts down that path the board has asked me to see if there are any
> projects that want to use the Jakarta EE compatible logo. After all,
> there is no point jumping through the hoops if no-one wants to use the logo.
> 
> With the above in mind can you please discuss this amongst your project
> community and reply back to jcp-open@apache.org whether or not your
> project is interested in being able to use the Jakarta EE compatible
> logo. I ask that you complete this no later than the next board meeting
> (20th February 2019).
> 
> If you have any questions about any of the above, please also use
> jcp-open@apache.org to ask them.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/efsl.php
> [2] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/tck.php
> [3] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/tck.php
> 
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