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From Costin Manolache <>
Subject Re: TC evolment
Date Tue, 06 Apr 2004 05:37:39 GMT
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
> Hi,
>>Fact is Java ( or at least the current JVMs) is among the worse
>>languages when it comes to integration with other systems. "Connectors"
>>are attempts to solve this.
> Whoa there ;)  Maybe if you're talking about JNI, but not integration in
> general ;)  It's a very broad term.

Integration with other native, complex systems - not only via JNI - is
usually a big pain. Some browsers ( konqueror for example ) don't even 
use JNI ( AFAIK ) for their applets - but a sort of out-of-process 
connector. Same for mozilla ( or at least some variants ).

I think it's important to recognize the problems and try to solve them -
this is IMO one of the weak points in java ( and one of the few areas 
where .net is significantly better ).

That's probably why I tought "let's integrate PHP" was an April 1 joke :-).

If Mladen is serious about that - I would love to see a solution, 
hopefully one that can be reused for other systems as well. Long ago,
mod_jk had as a goal to "integrate" with apache ( auth, etc ). I  think 
fully integrating PHP ( in the sense of bi-directional communication - 
php pages using java components and java using php fragments / modules ) 
is much harder.

Again - I don't want to discourage Mladen, but to see if he's aware of
the problems and if he has some good solution. I would like to see more
on the design and tricks he intends to use, maybe we can all learn some


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