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From Marek Manukjan <>
Subject Re: SVN and webdav
Date Mon, 05 Oct 2020 10:00:27 GMT
I'm not an expert on SVN's HTTP protocol so I don't know if there is
another variant of the Commit command like there are two modes of Update,
but from apache's access log it seems that Commit is done as one initial
POST request, then each file is uploaded as separate PUT request, and the
operation is finalized with MERGE request. Someone else might want to
confirm/disprove this, as it's based purely on observation of the access
log, not in-depth knowledge.

To clear up the difference between using SVNAllowBulkUpdates and KeepAlive,
as they control separate things:

   - SVNAllowBulkUpdates controls how many HTTP *requests will be done in
   total* for Checkout/Update/Switch operation. It doesn't affect Commit,
   as it seems it always uses multiple requests
   - KeepAlive controls how many HTTP *requests will be done per one TCP
   connection* for any operation

>From your initial question I can't quite make out which of the two you want
to actually control (not familiar with haproxy), but both should be
achievable using these configuration attributes.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 10:49 AM Wokash Wolsku <>

> This is helpful, thank you, however, reading the links especially
> SVNAllowBulkUpdates talks of getting the tree.  What directives control
> updates to the tree.  The situation I face is that some clients have to up
> load large graphics files, and video, these will be one object and
> presumably report request, on first reading that does not appear to be
> covered by the SVNAllowBulkUpdates.
> The KeepAlive seem also a corse way to achieve this...
> Thanks again.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Marek Manukjan <>
> *Sent:* 05 October 2020 10:24
> *To:* Wokash Wolsku <>
> *Cc:* <>
> *Subject:* Re: SVN and webdav
> It depends on server and client configuration. See following configuration
> attributes
>    - SVNAllowBulkUpdates (On, Off, Prefer)
>       - Bulk update means that all files will be received in a single
>       REPORT request
>       - Non-bulk (Skelta) mode, used by default in newer clients, means
>       that each file will use its own GET request
>       - see
>       - see
>    - standard Apache configuration attributes KeepAlive,
>    KeepAliveTimeout, MaxKeepAliveRequests
>       - they control how many HTTP requests can be done in a single
>       connection to server
>       -
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 10:10 AM Wokash Wolsku <>
> wrote:
> I am trying to use haproxy to rate control some svn clients which access
> the SVN repro via svn+https.  Some monitoring has thrown up some questions.
>    1.   When for example doing a checkout or commit of a large number of
>    files is this implemented as
>       1. 1 https request or many
>       2. 1 web dav action or many?
>    2. from the logs of haproxy (and I am by no means an expert) I see
>    only one connect and one https request.
> I was hopping to rate limit the clients by IP address and thereafter http
> requests hence to slow down large users so others get a share of the
> processor.  But without the volume of up load being related to http
> requests I am struggling to see how to implement this.
> Can anyone offer any advise.
> Wocash

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