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ClearCase with dynamic views would provide that data (files could not be modified unless checked out and the checkouts left markers in the database). You could even see "who" from other replicas (assuming proper synchronization). Agreed: you could not see what changes they were making unless you had access to their view. Thank you. Doug On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: > On 06.06.2016 15:47, Doug Robinson wrote: > > Andreas: > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Andreas Stieger > > > wrote: > > > > > or knowing who is actually working on a file. > > > > Incorrect, this is shown in both TortoiseSVN and svn cli. > > > > > > To be more precise, you can know who, in the past, has made changes to > > files _and > > _checked those change into the repository. You cannot know who has > > made changes > > in their working copy and has not yet checked them back into the > > repository (they > > may never do so). > > > > To know who is actually working on a file requires a level of > > integration that is not > > found in SVN, Git or CVS. I have a vague recollection of an SCM that > > did enable > > such information but I'm not remembering which one it is at the moment. > > > I believe ClearCase with dynamic views could do that, but even that > couldn't show diffs from someone else's view (since while the view was > stored on the server, the actual changes were only stored locally on the > client). > > -- Brane > --=20 *DOUGLAS B. 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Brane:

You're right!=C2=A0 ClearCas= e with dynamic views would provide that data (files could not be modified u= nless checked out and the checkouts left markers in the database).=C2=A0 Yo= u could even see "who" from other replicas (assuming proper synch= ronization).

Agreed: you could not see what change= s they were making unless you had access to their view.

Thank you.

Doug

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Br= anko =C4=8Cibej <brane@apache.org> wrote:
On 06.06.2016 15:47, Doug Robinson wrote: > Andreas:
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Andreas Stieger
> <= Andreas.Stieger@gmx.de <mailto:Andreas.Stieger@gmx.de>> wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> or knowing who is actually working on a file.<= br> >
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Incorrect, this is shown in both TortoiseSVN and sv= n cli.
>
>
> To be more precise, you can know who, in the past, has made changes to=
> files _and
> _checked those change into the repository.=C2=A0 You cannot know who h= as
> made changes
> in their working copy and has not yet checked them back into the
> repository (they
> may never do so).
>
> To know who is actually working on a file requires a level of
> integration that is not
> found in SVN, Git or CVS.=C2=A0 I have a vague recollection of an SCM = that
> did enable
> such information but I'm not remembering which one it is at the mo= ment.


I believe ClearCase with dynamic views could do that, but even that<= br> couldn't show diffs from someone else's view (since while the view = was
stored on the server, the actual changes were only stored locally on the client).

-- Brane



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