Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93AB1461C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 17:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51906 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2011 17:55:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 51728 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2011 17:55:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 51721 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jul 2011 17:55:21 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:55:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.214.43] (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:55:13 +0000 Received: by bwd7 with SMTP id 7so1290636bwd.30 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:54:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.36.7 with SMTP id r7mr1016394bkd.2.1310061292742; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.10.88 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:54:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [146.6.28.79] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:54:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SVN not usable on a Mac (#2464) From: Hyrum K Wright To: Vitus Piroutz Cc: users@subversion.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Vitus Piroutz wro= te: > Just to file my frustration (to whom it may concern): > > As posted yesterday as a comment for issue # 2464 "Canonicalize / stringp= rep UTF-8 filenames to handle composed / decomposed differences shown by e.= g. Mac OS X HFS+". > [Reminder: this BUG was originally filed on 2005-12-03 (currently is P2, = unscheduled target milestone)!] > > After switching to a Mac and using SVN the first time on that platform, i= initially was impressed by the nice looking GUI's (e.g. Versions, Cornerst= one, svnX). > As i'm working in a mixed team (Windows, Linux, Mac) with international u= sers, but using a german/english filled (huge) repository, i have to find o= ut the hard way, that SVN is literally _unusable_ for Mac users if any umla= ute (or non-ascii) characters are used in file- or directorynames. > What a shame! > > Some replies from the support of my GUI-Tool (Cornerstone, as it stands n= ow wasted money): > >> "I do understand your frustration, believe me. We have had a number of c= omplaints regarding this matter but the responsibility for fixing this does= lie squarely with CollabNet et al, and I know that they have received more= than their fair share of mails from frustrated users in relation to this." > >> "No Subversion-offical fixes are available as of yet. As soon as they ar= e, we'll make them available." > >> "This problem is most likely related to Subversion's lack of support for= files containing accents and diacritics. " > > So please provide a huge badge on http://subversion.apache.org indicating= to international users "Not for Mac users yet! (we can't handle your filen= ames, but working hard since 2005 to fix this)" The Subversion developers look forward to your patches which fix this problem. Since this is a high-impact issue for you, I'm sure you've considered how to handle the millions of existing repositories in a backward-compatible manner. Best, -Hyrum (a very satisfied Mac Subversion user)