Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: (qmail 67586 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2011 17:53:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Jan 2011 17:53:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 19785 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jan 2011 17:53:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-subversion-users-archive@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 19757 invoked by uid 500); 25 Jan 2011 17:53:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 19750 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jan 2011 17:53:56 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:53:56 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of andy.levy@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.43] (HELO mail-bw0-f43.google.com) (209.85.214.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:53:48 +0000 Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so577665bwz.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:53:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T+umxD78siG9rigQbVnjHuzJEIlb9rOL1B3rHHzWUsk=; b=b4XCrC0HrRRK+St+StMjzstZk8Ar3H0tDVDPe+jAG/91d/VitTFLVaPTq183vtoEJh sVqBe+bTZD2b+OQ3Cu5ryqFFyKAwTJR6zQ9Ayp6zdW+M6L9UTfU738WzVq/dNhfhmv+N IOk4NFo3WCJX1TARRJ4OPnHNeUo53Hb1i8rd8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ixEMzyizURsRDV4CZ2ZXhFFhiWs1aTJFKFe1d4FrQA+rHoVbYbnoijqR9DrurLEjJg +ipvQmXh7w+wzqi/2+e8OoRyIAL1m9+Fd9V4kPj8gX3e2FgTveJgzmMpFnX/bo7cGYCj 3X5cQZM4Qy6B5JM2pGUpd7ePfeDtzo2w3wLsg= Received: by 10.204.124.20 with SMTP id s20mr5479969bkr.194.1295978008167; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:53:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.85.65 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:52:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Andy Levy Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 12:52:45 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Windows over linux To: Chris Albertson Cc: "users@subversion.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:45, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Andy Levy wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:56, Chris Albertson >> wrote: > >> And if the skillset in your shop is primarily Windows, using Solaris >> or Linux would require a lot of expensive training, > > People who grow up with Windows all remember just how hard it was to > learn all the work-around for Windows many quirks and problems. =A0They > think it will take years to re-learn that for another OS. =A0No. =A0those > other OSes =A0basically "just work". =A0Going from bare hardware (no OS) > to a running SVN server under Linux takes about an hour or maybe two > and not to many mouse clicks. =A0Most of that time is waiting for the > software to download, the SVN software is pulled down from the net and > automatically installed when you click the "SVN Server" check box then > "install". =A0 =A0This is not a high-skill level task, you are not > building a three tier web site. In a corporate setting with change management, security & audit controls and everything else associated, things are not so simple. You cannot simply download an ISO, install the OS, and say "done! We don't have to do anything else here."