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From: Mark Phippard X-Mailer: iPad Mail (16D5024a) In-Reply-To: <1544906853.3806901.1610193968.066EAD99@webmail.messagingengine.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 16:22:52 -0500 Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7392B4CA-2DFC-4436-B925-29C5597BFA52@gmail.com> References: <1544466571.3230978.1604897536.4D697527@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20181211082922.av4rchjamqzxgu7h@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <1544826601.3425085.1609597992.20FF7DB6@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20181215101004.7gusbzc2ld7ncyrk@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <1544903255.3790497.1610152112.3E4001C4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <2C9E32BA-48E9-4116-9AB2-873FA1BA0CB4@gmail.com> <1544906853.3806901.1610193968.066EAD99@webmail.messagingengine.com> To: Julian Foad > On Dec 15, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Julian Foad wrote: >=20 > Mark Phippard wrote: >>>> On Dec 15, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Julian Foad wrote:= >>>> Branko =C4=8Cibej wrote: >>>> But before we start on something I'd like to see some proposals on quer= y >>>> language, so that we don't implement ourselves into a corner. I'd >>>> propose this as a starting point: >>>>=20 >>>> https://www.mercurial-scm.org/repo/hg/help/revsets >>>=20 >>> Yes. To be clear, I was rather intending this suggestion might be taken >> as a nudge towards developing some structured queries. [...] >>=20 >> Just a meta comment ... >>=20 >> I am not 100% clear what you would like to see, [...] >=20 > Well, two things: > (1) an up-to-date public listing of what's pending on the release branches= ; > (2) development of structured queries, of any and all kinds, in Subversion= . >=20 > These are very much different goals. The first is what I started this thre= ad for -- to add visibility of what we are doing and what users can expect. T= his info should be simply generated, rather raw, not highly curated. I am just saying these are both still pretty vague. 1. You are talking about the website right? So I am saying throw together t= he HTML that shows what you want to see. Maybe that will stimulate some ide= as. I am just saying for me, as more of just a user than you are, I would n= ot care about seeing commits. I would want something higher level (like a J= ira issue) for it to be of value to me. 2. Again vague. Isn't svn log a query? I am sure what you are thinking is n= ot vague to you. Maybe if we could see what you were thinking for the previ= ous point then the sort of thing you are looking for here would be more clea= r. I am also not clear whose itch you are scratching here. If you are thinking= about SVN users wanting to follow the project, I think higher level info wo= uld be needed. If you are just trying to build something for the SVN devs t= hen that would be different but that is where the website part of this would= be throwing me off as I cannot envision many of the SVN devs using it. Mark=