Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EF8200C11 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:03:49 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 255B1160B63; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 701A3160B54 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:03:48 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 89413 invoked by uid 500); 4 Feb 2017 19:03:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@subversion.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@subversion.apache.org Received: (qmail 89402 invoked by uid 99); 4 Feb 2017 19:03:42 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 19:03:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id C58431806E2 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:03:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.699 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6J5wcnm3tDrx for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 929BB5F340 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:03:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: stsp@elego.de Received: from jim.stsp.name (jim.stsp.name [217.197.84.42]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v14J3aIN022950 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:03:36 +0100 Received: from localhost (jim.stsp.name [local]) by jim.stsp.name (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 9b52b14c; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:03:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 20:03:36 +0100 From: Stefan Sperling To: Daniel Shahaf Cc: dev@subversion.apache.org Subject: Re: Low level of activity (was: Re: svn commit: r74422 - /pmc/subversion/reports/201702.txt) Message-ID: <20170204190336.27lqsb366pocaq7e@jim.stsp.name> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Shahaf , dev@subversion.apache.org References: <20170202164357.D83333A0016@svn01-us-west.apache.org> <20170203180527.GA6264@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> <20170204165346.GA4062@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20170204165346.GA4062@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170128 (1.7.2) archived-at: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 19:03:49 -0000 On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 04:53:46PM +0000, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > I wrote the following in a thread on private@, but the issue need not be > discussed confidentially: > > Daniel Shahaf wrote on Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 18:05:27 +0000: > > I've noticed that some threads don't happen. > > > > Examples: > > > > - stefan2 solicited reviews of his authz branch. None happened. > > > > - SVN-4670 was filed with a trivial patch. Nothing happened. > > > > What worries me isn't the reduced activity — that's to be expected — but > > the complete *lack* of activity around these and other threads. That > > activity level is lower than I would expect, even taking into account > > that we're now mostly volunteer-run. > > Cheers, > > Daniel Well, I suppose people simply have their priorities. You may have gotten used to a level of activity which was made possible by several full-time employment positions with a lot of creative freedom. Nowadays, as far as I know, we're all volunteers, with paid development being a rare exception. I don't think this is a real problem. It's simply what happens when people have less time to spend on this project, and when those who get funding can't choose to do whatever they want but get funded for specific things (as was the case with funding I got for working on the conflict resolver, for example -- which BTW is over since Jan 31st). What we can do is keep asking each other for help, and take all the help we can get :)