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<53D52D02E87FA04A948D9A74A7AE617C11B31BC2A6@Eagle.Blue.Roguewave.Com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:00:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Apache Standard C++ Project chair change From: Stefan Teleman To: Travis Vitek Cc: "private@stdcxx.apache.org" , "dev@stdcxx.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Travis Vitek wrote: > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Stefan Teleman wrote: >> >> I am going to ask the following questions in the open. Perhaps this >> way I will get an answer: >> >> 1. Apparently, "Bill's emails" were sent and replied to on the private >> list. I have not received any of them, although I am on the private >> list. Or at least, I was on the private list as recently as late >> March. Is this a case of mailing list malfunction? If that is the >> case, it should be fixed. > > The e-mails regarding the ICLAs were sent to the @private list on 5/1. Well, yes I got that. My problem is that I no longer receive emails from @private. I used to, until about end of March/first week of April. I even sent a bunch of emails to @private. If this is a @private mailing list problem, I'm asking that it be fixed. The ASF instructions about the @private mailing list states "contact your PMC". So, here I am, contacting the stdcxx PMC about @private. I would appreciate an answer. >> 3. There was a recent and important PMC change at stdcxx. >> Congratulations to Jim Jagielski for his new role as PMC Chair. Again, >> I learned of this change yesterday, and that only from Jim's email. I >> haven't received any notification about Jim's appointment prior to >> yesterday, although, to be fair, I knew about it at the beginning of >> May, because I read the ASF Board Minutes. Again, why wasn't there any >> notification of this change? > > I read about it in the e-mail entitled 'ASF Board Meeting Summary - April= 18, 2012'. I don't normally read the meeting minutes, but I figured someth= ing was coming given the kerfuffle over the lack of a March status report (= all of which was discussed on the @private list). Yes, I think that's how I learned about it too. But I generally don't read Board Minutes, so the fact that I learned about this change was entirely by accident. I also believe that having a sudden PMC Chair change is an important enough event that it warrants an email sent to dev@, announcing the change. A three line email announcing the change isn't really that much to ask of the ASF Board. In my experience, and generally speaking, developers like knowing who is the new Boss. >> 4. The nightly build emails, which had restarted towards the end of >> February/beginning of March, have stopped. Why is that? > > It looks like the February builds were kicked off manually by Farid. I'm = not sure if the build system is configured to poll svn automatically or not= , but the last submit to stdcxx was on 2/20, so there has been no need to d= o any builds since that time. Ah, OK. ISTR an email from Farid about some kind of move of the nightly build infrastructure, and some problems with the builds as a result of this move, but I don't remember the details right now. Lastly, I have attached a patch for stdcxx-1058. I'd appreciate a review, so I can commit the fix. I have a bunch of more fixes and patches, but given that everyone is busy, I'd rather submit the patches one by one, instead of carpet bombing. Thank you very much! --Stefan --=20 Stefan Teleman KDE e.V. stefan.teleman@gmail.com