From dev-return-60265-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@spamassassin.apache.org Tue Jun 16 23:34:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C70F180621 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2020 01:34:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 95578 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2020 23:34:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 95556 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2020 23:34:04 -0000 Received: from mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:34:04 +0000 Received: from bz-he-de.apache.org (bz-he-de.apache.org [148.251.237.210]) by mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 762C441BFA for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bz-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at bz-he-de.apache.org, from userid 33) id 3AA2E6A006E; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:34:02 +0000 (UTC) From: bugzilla-daemon@spamassassin.apache.org To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: [Bug 7826] Improve language around whitelist/blacklist and master/slave Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 23:34:02 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Spamassassin X-Bugzilla-Component: spamassassin X-Bugzilla-Version: 4.0.0 X-Bugzilla-Keywords: X-Bugzilla-Severity: normal X-Bugzilla-Who: billcole@apache.org X-Bugzilla-Status: NEW X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: P2 X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org X-Bugzilla-Target-Milestone: Undefined X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated MIME-Version: 1.0 https://bz.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=3D7826 --- Comment #4 from Bill Cole --- (In reply to macosx10.4.11 from comment #3) > Is this a joke? No. Using colors as a good/bad metaphorical idiom is inaccurate for how SA uses such lists and has the added problem of colliding with the intractable idiomatic use of "Black" and "White" for arbitrary classes of people. Naming collisions are inherently bad, and we can't fix the larger side of this one. Switching to allow/block better reflects what SA does without requiring a subtle understanding of any English metaphorical idiom.=20 The use of master/slave in SA is limited to tools in the build directory, w= hich are of interest primarily to active members of the SA development, project sysadmin, and masscheck submitter communities. There *may* be some sites wi= th independent automc and rule QA rigs, but there's no evidence of that. The u= sage includes scripts for Jenkins, which dropped 'slave' terminology in v2.0 (20= 16.) I am not entirely conversant with the automc & buildbot architecture where 'slave' is used, but a cursory examination leads me to believe that 'child'= or perhaps 'worker' or 'robot' is a more apt metaphor for the tasks where 'sla= ve' is currently used.=20 In spamd, 'child' is already used consistently.=20 (In reply to AXB from comment #2) > "killing child" sounds socially acceptable... Moot point: there are no references in any SA code or comments to killing slaves.=20 We already announce that we are "killing failed child" in lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/SpamdForkScaling.pm which does seem to fall short of = the modern norms of good parenting. However, the standard terminology of the Unix/Linux/POSIX process model makes it unwieldy to avoid references to kil= ling children. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=