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From Alexandro Colorado <>
Subject Re: Meeting at ApacheCon
Date Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:12:25 GMT
Any pictures from the meetup?

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <> wrote:

> Hi-
> > On 01 Oct 2015, at 14:43, Andrea Pescetti <> wrote:
> >
> > It seems that several of us are (or are going to be) at ApacheCon Europe
> today y and tomorrow, but it's difficult to find people in the huge crowd.
> >
> > Louis suggested that we organize a meeting tomorrow morning (do you have
> any more details about proposed time/place, Louis?).
> >
> > I expect that we manage to find each other at the reception tonight
> anyway.
> We can try to meet up. I doubt we will have—nor should we—any conversation
> that would not be had in pubic, as on this list. It’s more to talk as
> easily as in-peson meetings can only make possible.
> But I think the issues are those that we all here are aware of. They are
> also public, or should be.
> Briefly:
> * We need developers. We need them to continue with the project, with what
> we’ve been doing for almost exactly 15 years (13 October), and we need them
> to address the needs that those who use OO (or LO) on a large scale really
> need.
> — those needs are, interoperability with MS OOXML and probably also the
> binary formats (.doc, etc.) and also collaboration—a vague term.
> We also need core developers who can initiate and then help lead new and
> interesting features that extend the reach of the ODF.
> The other big issue that we all have discussed relates to working with
> those at LibreOffice/TDF. I am aware of the issues and obstacles and also
> histories that obstruct the flows of community work. But the current
> situation is not really helping anyone and is confusing everyone. Even if
> issues like license, workflow culture, notions of community, etc. prevent
> actual collaboration on any but the most essential security issues, my
> guess is that we can probably help the larger community of OO/LO users by
> clarifying what our identities and differences are and what users can
> expect. We are both open source projects. We ought therefore to be able to
> be as transparent in these matters as we are in our code. And we owe it to
> the community of users who want to know what keeps us apart and why we
> can’t just get along.
> Of course, I hardly expect that we’ll have anything like an agreement on
> this matter tonight, should we even discuss it! And of course, any real,
> substantive discussion will necessarily include the community, else it
> won’t have happened.
> >
> > Regards,
> >  Andrea.
> Best,
> Louis
> PS I had a rather interesting discussion with several people on the state
> of the ODF today, at ApacheCon. Among them was Giovanni Grazia, who led the
> migration from MSFT 2003 to AOO of the significant Italian polity of
> Regione Emilia-Romagna. I’ll draft a short account of it as well as other
> elements that speak to the state of ODF today.

Alexandro Colorado
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