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From Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Font galleries facelift
Date Sun, 25 Aug 2013 21:14:48 GMT
2013/8/25 Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>

> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.mldc@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 2013/8/25 Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org>
> >
> >> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> >>
> >>> I wonder if OpenOffice could get a facelift on the fonts it comes up
> with.
> >>> I have seen quite a few of Apache license fonts that are pretty nice
> >>>
> >>
> >> Within reason (we cannot include too many fonts) and within license
> >> limitations (Apache 2 being the easiest one to integrate) we could
> include
> >> a few more fonts.
> >>
> >> Droid aside, do you have a short list of specific fonts (with download
> >> links and license information) worth integrating?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Beside Droid and the fonts we already include (arimo, tinos, etc) it's
> not
> > easy to find Apache licensed fonts: most opensource fonts use SIL
> license.
> >
>
> It should be possible to include nearly any open source font with the
> *binaries*, but I don't really see the point.  Unless one of our
> document templates actually uses the fonts, we're just adding clutter
> to the user's machine.  And if we do use the new fonts from the
> templates then we would be introducing an interop issue, since those
> documents would not render perfectly with older OpenOffice version,
> where these new fonts would be missing.
>

Agree



>
> IMHO, if we really think that new fonts are needed, then it would be
> better to do it in the form of a resource-only extension, with fonts
> and templates.   That extension could then be installed on AOO 4.0
> systems, but also earlier systems.
>

Is it possible to install fonts as extensions? Installing fonts should be a
system wide operation. On the other hand, on Linux the fonts bundled on AOO
are not available system wide but installed on a folder inside AOO install
path (which increase the risk of duplicated fonts on the system). For
instance, I can only see Tinos or Arimo on AOO, they are not available
from, say, Calligra Suite unless I explicitly tell the system to look for
fonts on the AOO directory.

Now that I think of it maybe less bundled fonts is better than more. Maybe
it is better to just guide the user on how to properly install fonts on
each system and provide a general list of where open source fonts can be
found.

Regards
Ricardo




>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > On this page
> >
> > http://www.google.com/fonts/attribution
> >
> > there is a list of google fonts with their license. Of interest and with
> > Apache license I can only see Open Sans and Open Sans Condensed
> >
> > http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans
> > http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Open+Sans+Condensed
> >
> > that are quite similar to Adobe's Source Sans Pro (which is SIL
> licensed),
> > the Noto family
> >
> > http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Noto+Sans
> > http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Noto+Serif
> >
> > and not many more: Most other Apache fonts there are only "decorative".
> >
> > Note that I do not use those fonts on a regular basis (I'm a big fan of
> > Libertine/Biolinum family that are dual licensed SIL+GPL with font
> > exception), so I cannot say how good they are.
> >
> > But if we can include SIL licensed fonts on the search, it will be quite
> > difficult to choose only a few :)
> >
> > Regards
> > Ricardo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> See https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122097<
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122097>for an example of a
> similar enhancement issue.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Andrea.
> >>
> >>
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