Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5203C103F0 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29729 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jun 2013 20:01:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 29658 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jun 2013 20:01:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 29649 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jun 2013 20:01:14 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 20:01:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: softfail (nike.apache.org: transitioning domain of hagar.delest@laposte.net does not designate 212.27.42.1 as permitted sender) Received: from [212.27.42.1] (HELO smtp1-g21.free.fr) (212.27.42.1) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 20:01:06 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.10] (unknown [83.153.184.98]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1044A9402BB for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 22:00:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51AE4768.7070001@laposte.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 22:00:40 +0200 From: Hagar Delest User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed References: <51A4C8D8.5000406@googlemail.com> <51A6159B.80403@googlemail.com> <51AB29D9.6020108@apache.org> <51AC5806.9000004@googlemail.com> <000c01ce6148$a23ab8a0$e6b029e0$@zybura.com> <1D35A2254CFC4DD3B23B9725BEA40777@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1D35A2254CFC4DD3B23B9725BEA40777@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Le 04/06/2013 20:27, Juergen Schmidt a �crit : > instead of complaining and requesting you could have joined the development and could have worked on one or more of your addressed issues. This is the way how open source works. The code is available and you can help to improve it. This is the standard reply of the devs community very often. Please remember that OpenOffice is a rather specific project with a user base made of basic users, not developers. This is not a toy for geeks who want to implement cool things. So if the users are really disappointed because they are not taken care of, they will just leave and go to LibreOffice for example. Whatever the technical reason is, not taking into account the basic user aspect is dangerous. There were ideas about having a transition phase but nothing has really been made about that AFAIK. If voices like ours dare say so against the dev community, it's because we think that the users deserve a minimal care to keep them interested in the product. I doubt they would ever engage in such a discussion. So please don't forget about them, even if you don't hear their voices apart ours. NB: has a communication been made to the extension authors asking them to update their extension with the detailed changes to be made? What is the idea for the moment? Hope that they will do that by themselves because they certainly monitor the dev mailing list? Hagar --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org