Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4C6BC546 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 77768 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 10:15:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 77406 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2013 10:15:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 77387 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2013 10:15:02 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:15:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [212.227.17.10] (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.17.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:14:55 +0000 Received: from Platz11 (port-92-201-110-216.dynamic.qsc.de [92.201.110.216]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LdIcX-1U5XZI3Usj-00iBiu; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:14:34 +0200 Reply-To: From: "Hans Zybura" To: References: <51A4C8D8.5000406@googlemail.com> <51A6159B.80403@googlemail.com> <51AB29D9.6020108@apache.org> <51AC5806.9000004@googlemail.com> <000c01ce6148$a23ab8a0$e6b029e0$@zybura.com> <1D35A2254CFC4DD3B23B9725BEA40777@gmail.com> <51AE4768.7070001@laposte.net> <95B5D6E9B67E4D4591709E8F00B32200@gmail.com> <51AE5C0E.7070401@laposte.net> <51AF3C35.8060309@googlemail.com> <51AF9B1D.90804@laposte.net> <51BA3D50.2070705@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <51BA3D50.2070705@apache.org> Subject: RE: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile data - help needed Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 12:14:22 +0200 Organization: Hans Zybura Software Message-ID: <000301ce68e7$f12745e0$d375d1a0$@zybura.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGp9XXBIAgr50SOp0KfjgmnrXahOwHa7SStAWhQsr0C8K5AUgH5hMJsAV7gVlECMQUESQEI9pE+AcfAx3sB7zXAAAHciWFuAbjpFYwDLizN6ZjDxPxA Content-Language: de X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:PhrAT9l1lE7aGxlxRHBCJX8A2n5poTwD7oOL+rm4/Gc EZyjv2x5IbtQfaYhSrt5TqALbwnT+bQSEvJMLkcUKiWLLzWlhi JulYnNaK2G/ffC/ZyD0bWb9zrehhJVUBNCiUu6RSznoCLByNib slz4go48kg+wdNcTNyugzlCDtZlgQ9m9OR+uwCtll2k9V1wOQM zB61q7UUgsQj28IofWoETzkvHC3fjwezrOjaznLi/f+/nxC4Yf jarLeP3BYzM/vO43p9qhPdLocyNhpn0CXvJrIAiyrp6YRCSImc AsoXtp9itQ2WvwUZ78bai0SoJlak5/6o9M0AiPpubIXwYwDSyl YNmSzbaul1Hy+BgrZmnL+G5tvMLs4J6dntDSADIY8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Andrea, first I'd like to thank you for starting this web-page! OO Developers tend to have a somewhat limited view of the large variety = of scenarios, how , why, and by whom extensions are created and maintained. Please note that the extension repository, although it is certainly a = great source of extensions, is by far not the only one, even not the most important one. E.g. commercial extensions are mostly not downloadable = via the extension repository, but the publishers may be advertising their solution there. But the vast amount of extensions existing will not even = be publicly visible/available, because they are created for companies small = and large, or privately for a friend/oneself. Therefore I'd like to recommend some additions (sorry for my limited English): For commercial extensions, please contact the publisher for support. In = case an extension is not publicly available, but only used privately or in = your company/institution, please ask either the author of your extension or a person responsible in your company/institution for help. Please note: If a certain extension is crucial for your personal or professional workflow, you should not install AOO 4.0 before having made sure that this extension will work on AOO 4.0 or that an update of the extension is available. One last time I want to comment on J=FCrgen Schmidt's recommendation to = define a Maxversion. Maybe there are special cases, where this is feasible, = e.g. in a (not to small) company where you are able to guarantee availability of support at any time. In some very special cases (from my POV) it may = even be vital to do that. So defining a Maxversion may be seen as an important option at hand. =20 That does not say that it has to be recommended as best practice or = even mandatory. The word "deprecated" seems to imply the latter. A commercial solution simply cannot afford to define a Maxversion, because users = would understand this to be a predetermined breaking point for making more = money only. Customers are very suspicious in this regard because of the ever shortening life cycle of technical hardware products nowadays. Or see it this way: For an extension author like me, AOO is functioning similar to another layer of an operating system. So please ask yourself = in analogy: Would any of the AOO developers want to define for AOO 4.0 a Maxversion like ? I don't think so. And = whatever the reasons may be, the same reasons apply in the reasoning of an = extension developers. Kind regards, Hans > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pescetti@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 11:45 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [AOO 4.0]: migration of AOO 3.4.x/OOo 3.x user profile = data - > help needed >=20 > On 05/06/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: > > There has been a lot of posts in that discussion, even some = proposals > > but we are approaching the 4.0 release and I've not seen a single > > warning for the extensions authors about the changes needed or any > > proposal to warn users. >=20 > I've started a wiki page at >=20 > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_Open > Office_4.0 >=20 > It's still incomplete, and I hope that developers with knowledge may = step in > and fill in the gaps. >=20 > It is meant to be a resource that we will want to advertise in the = release > notes and make available to users when they seek support, so please = have a > look, and feel free to improve and complete it. >=20 > Regards, > Andrea. >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@openoffice.apache.org