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From Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <orwittm...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: updates.openoffice.org
Date Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:00:35 GMT
Hi,

damn - I just noticed that I have given the wrong fallback URL.

It must be https://ooo-updates.apache.org/
instead of https://ooo-updates.openoffice.org/

Best regards, Oliver.

On 05.06.2013 11:05, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> sorry for top-posting, but I think it makes sense to clean up some things.
>
> Some facts and my opinions:
> (1)
> Fact: In communication with infra, infra had proposed
> https://updates.openoffice.org/ (https://ooo-updates.openoffice.org/ as
> the backup) as the URL for the resources accessed by the update
> functionality by AOO 4.0 and later. Nobody objects.
> My opinion: I think we should go for it.
>
> (2)
> Fact: In communication with infra, infra had proposed
> ^/openoffice/updates-site/trunk as the SVN location for the resources
> needed for the update functionality by AOO 4.0 and later.
> My opinion: I believe it would be good to have the update resources
> separated from the website resources. It would mean to move
> ^/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/projects/aoo40/check.Update to
> ^/openoffice/updates-site/trunk/aoo40/check.Update
>
> (3)
> My understanding: I think infra had in mind to "map"
> https://updates.openoffice.org (resp.
> https://ooo-updates.openoffice.org/) to ^/openoffice/updates-site/trunk
> Please correct me, if my understanding is not correct.
>
> (4)
> Fact: The update resources for AOO 3.4.1, AOO 3.4, OOo 3.3, OOo 3.2.1
> and OOo 3.2 will remain at their current SVN location and will be
> accessed by the current UpdateURLs.
> My opinion: Thus, I believe there will be no change to the SVN
> locations, to the URLs and to the "URL mapping/forwarding" (sorry, I do
> not know the correct term here) for the update resources used by already
> released versions.
>
>
> My proposal:
> I propose to follow infra's proposal mentioned above in (1) and (2).
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
> On 05.06.2013 00:22, janI wrote:
>> On 5 June 2013 00:05, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:59 PM, janI <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> On 4 June 2013 22:36, Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 03/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the concern is this:
>>>>>> 1) We want SSL for 4.0.http://update.openoffice.**org<
>>> http://update.openoffice.org> is not HTTPS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) The URL https://ooo-site.openoffice.**apache.org<
>>> https://ooo-site.openoffice.apache.org> supports SSL, but is
>>>>>> not considered "long term stable".  The URL is an artifact of the
CMS
>>>>>> 3) We're looking for a stable URL.  One could be
>>>>>> https://updates.openoffice.org**, but that requires an SSL cert for
>>>>>> *.openoffice.org.  But will that be supported in time for the AOO
4.0
>>>>>> release?
>>>>>> 4) Backup plan is updates.openoffice.apache.org, which could be
>>>>>> supported via SSL today, using the *.apache.org cert.  If we do that
>>>>>> we'd want to map that to its own CMS dir in SVN. so it can be updated
>>>>>> and published via the CMS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is mostly correct, except the fact (in #2 and #4) that the
>>>>> current
>>>>> certificates only support x.apache.org and not x.y.apache.org: so
>>>>> https://ooo-site.apache.org is what is in the sources right now (well,
>>>>> the last time I checked) and https://openoffice-updates.**apache.org<
>>> https://openoffice-updates.apache.org>(or something like that) should be
>>> used for the backup plan in #4.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I am confused, it seem we nearly all agree on
>>>> https://updates.openoffice.orgbut not on the directory.
>>>>
>>>> The order for the cert is being processed, when the cert arrives it
>>>> needs
>>>> to be implemented on erebus-sll (our https: proxy), and we (infra) need
>>> to
>>>> do some updates on the aoo servers.
>>>>
>>>> In order to do this work, I need:
>>>>
>>>> 1) which url (e.g. https://updates.openoffice.org)
>>>> 2) should relate to which directory in svn.
>>>>
>>>> The last mails contains different proposal ranging from dont do it for
>>> 4.0
>>>> to different dirs, that is something I cannot implement.
>>>>
>>>> We can also decide to forget it for https:updates.*, but I need a
>>>> single
>>>> decision to be able to implement it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is the cert already here?  Or do we have a few weeks to decide?  I'd
>>> say, don't let this decision get in the way of deploying the cert and
>>> enabling it for the website, wikis, forums, etc.   The update site
>>> doesn't need to be enabled until shortly before AOO 4.0 is released.
>>>
>> We have been promised a free cert, I just checked it is not yet in our
>> hands.
>>
>> Wiki and other services with login, will be changed to https: to
>> adhere to
>> asf/infra policy.
>> This will be done on infra initative, and the actual setup will be like
>> other servers in asf.
>>
>> update.o.o can come later, but it will definitively save work if we do it
>> as one task. Of course if
>> the decision is to postpone after 4.0, it will be 2 tasks.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> And depending on when the cert arrives, we might not use it at all for
>>> 4.0 updates.  If it comes too late we'll just use an apache.org
>>> address.   So we're really waiting for Infra on this, not the other
>>> way around.  We need an estimate for when the cert will be purchased
>>> so we can decide whether or not it will be used for 4.0 updates.
>>>
>>
>> As I understand it from the code, the end-user never sees this url, so
>> why
>> not stick with apache.org ?
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan I.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>    Andrea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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