Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60F4DE072 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 91425 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2013 10:53:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 91108 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jan 2013 10:53:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 91075 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jan 2013 10:53:44 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:53:44 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=LOTS_OF_MONEY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of fcassia@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.45] (HELO mail-qa0-f45.google.com) (209.85.216.45) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 10:53:39 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id j15so2455595qaq.4 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:53:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UaGXMZHJE26yRY6se4CczV1eoACNX+kcqHMHGeZbGtA=; b=iP9jJfCVY5FmV7+MSoVg8M2AIjIZTA5qDIahMZA2Pl/yAfLrGrHPqm0kpJUfkkJSym KO2WRLRPS40t/o2xm94u+N2lQLDacdtMBl082nXHrUKKRZ24ZeT68cLoZqWBji+ohow3 kEpFErCIXcVNDgQbnejp/KLaTqanNkQi7qrDNdKzuihLQIDvb/j1Fe+8vtjnFfm1hFUC XuqxTC6FhQURv2gMwwePSzxqSL+jvj0Evz1AwLV2XR9ZU4Vi0dqto25xP/nA5vYuE8Lw H0R5lRM2PYyaIMFsm65K4Nq7mT922xQSh3NAwr6Fm/GUux2tOH9Gr6WlD6lhaasOv90g +0Sw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.73.232 with SMTP id o8mr71856472qev.0.1357901598292; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.96.35 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:53:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:53:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0 From: Fernando Cassia To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the > "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "IBM faked the > donation of the Symphony code" and "IBM did not donate anything". I > can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be > held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that > peak level of paranoia. could that be someone who worked at Burson Marsteller ? am I thinking about the same Public Relations specialist? A PR guy being a master of spin? surely some mistake.... (sarcasm) http://pages.citebite.com/k9g2s1t6neji "history has shown that the proprietary StarOffice and Oracle Open Office have never been able to generate any visible turnover (and have not attracted a single company)" (...) "None of these companies =E2=80=93 s= ome of them very large, up to 100.000 seats =E2=80=93 ever asked for a license = of Sun StarOffice." https://blogs.oracle.com/ontherecord/entry/staroffice_8_and_sixth_annual "The Sixth Annual eWEEK Excellence Award winners posted yesterday. This year almost 800 entries were submitted for the award, from which 19 winners in different categories were chosen. StarOffice 8 is the Productivity Applications category winner." http://philwilson.org/blog/2006/07/bristol-adopts-odf "Bristol City Council has joined the ODF Alliance, The Council already uses StarOffice instead of Microsoft Office " "Largest implementation of Sun's StarOffice office productivity suite in the UK retail sector" http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/jessops-develops-new-point-of-sal= e-and-desktop-infrastructure-to-achieve-2m-pounds-sterling-cost-saving-1546= 78395.html "By centralising our POS management and moving to StarOffice, we will not only save money, we will have a centralised view of each and every Jessops store across the UK. " India insurance firm moves 10,000 seats to StarOffice http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/02/06/1075854037075.html " Banca Popolare di Milano 4,500 SUSE Linux desktops with a Mozilla web browser, web client for Lotus Notes, * Sun=E2=80=99s StarOffice suite*, and a Java-based custom sui= te of banking applications in its 500 branch offices." HDFC Bank uses StarOffice http://computer.financialexpress.com/20050228/market01.shtml So how does this compare to claims that "None of these companies ever asked for a license of Sun StarOffice." ?? and "not a single company" Wonder how anyone still takes him seriously... FC --=20 During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary= act - George Orwell