Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D67AE4C6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 87578 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jan 2013 22:35:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-openoffice-dev-archive@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 87509 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jan 2013 22:35:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@openoffice.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@openoffice.apache.org Received: (qmail 87500 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jan 2013 22:35:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:35:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [208.113.200.5] (HELO homiemail-a58.g.dreamhost.com) (208.113.200.5) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:35:44 +0000 Received: from homiemail-a58.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a58.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C22B7D805B; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [151.67.86.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andrea@pescetti.it) by homiemail-a58.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 712177D8058; Mon, 14 Jan 2013 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50F48828.9060406@apache.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 23:35:20 +0100 From: Andrea Pescetti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OO / unsubscribed posters References: <50F434B9.2090806@gmx.de> <50F47449.1090907@laposte.net> In-Reply-To: <50F47449.1090907@laposte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hagar Delest wrote: > Again, few had noticed that OP was not subscribed. > There had been talks some weeks ago about changing the headers to make a > dedicated one for moderated messages since the delivered-to header was > not designed to be used more than once in a message. But no change after > the list address change. > Could it be a priority for the near future to improve (very) new users > experience? It has been a priority of mine, but the results are not encouraging. A couple months ago, in November, I contacted Infra to find out whether this was feasible and it isn't. These are the three options I gave them: a) Adding an "X-Apache-moderated: yes" header or similar when a message is held for moderation ("Delivered-To" will occur multiple times and won't work) b) adding a "[moderated]" tag at the end of the subject c) setting Reply-To to list+sender instead of list only in this case Neither of this is feasible with ezmlm-idx, the software we are using. Well, it's software, then... I subscribed the ezmlm-idx list, and I sent a similar request to them. You can see it here: http://lists.untroubled.org/?list=ezmlm&cmd=monthbythread&month=201212 (you can see only the title at the moment because their site crashes, but needless to say I got no answers). So, to the best of my knowledge and effort, we can't improve this situation. Of course, if somebody wants to submit a patch to ezmlm-idx this might be better received than my request, but the latest release of ezmlm-idx dates a few years back... The best advice I can give at the moment is to use "Reply All" when someone is clearly new here. Regards, Andrea.