Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 396CC72A7 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20786 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 16:59:27 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20735 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 16:59:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20726 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2011 16:59:26 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:59:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-ew0-f47.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:59:26 +0000 Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so1976819ewy.6 for ; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.5.206 with SMTP id 54mr890480eel.157.1315155564468; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.188.15 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 09:59:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110904170619.6b470ae71d62094b6f58d646@iol.ie> References: <4E6361AE.3070907@ellisons.org.uk> <4E638B48.9020200@ellisons.org.uk> <20110904164711.66a6f6b5b8b5175f3ae684ed@iol.ie> <20110904170619.6b470ae71d62094b6f58d646@iol.ie> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 12:59:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 11:52:00 -0400 > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> Your information is incomplete then. =C2=A0Earlier in the thread Terry s= aid >> that there were ongoing discussions in the private forum that >> paralleled this discussion. =C2=A0I assume you are aware of that thread? > > Such discusssions were mostly commentary on the the discussion on this th= read, and subsequently reaction to the hard anti-Forum line being pursued b= y many of the posters to this thread, with reaction from some volunteers to= the way they were shouted down or ignored. > I don't think anyone is "anti-Forum". Just last week I had mailing list volunteers accusing me of being a mailing list hater because I suggested we should do support primarily on the support forums. The truth is I, and many others, are just trying to figure out how best integrate the eclectic mix of OOo sub projects and their communities into an Apache project. This includes the support forums, but it includes a lot more as well. If you think someone had a post that was ignored, please point me to it. I might be able to help you formulate it into a more concrete proposal. > If you joine the list as Terry suggested, you would have access to those = channels and their history. > I don't think we disagree based on lack of information. I think it is more based on differing opinions on the importance of transparency and Apache Way decision making. > -- > Rory O'Farrell >