Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BE2C7BD7 for ; Sun, 4 Sep 2011 05:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11761 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 05:59:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 11500 invoked by uid 500); 4 Sep 2011 05:59:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 11485 invoked by uid 99); 4 Sep 2011 05:59:08 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 05:59:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of jeanweber@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 04 Sep 2011 05:59:00 +0000 Received: by iagz35 with SMTP id z35so4988211iag.6 for ; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 22:58:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XMDOf24gQt18d1jlmfJa9W2nhSZGkO9QGq9I2LypwIg=; b=N9IB4uuFpQ1glWv8dFxqOVHFnk6IOTpyfH2pfH+/B5RPmR9Co1f6HNMJyzRDTGqIIE Uj1skn1nFcxxyqUez/4aYibdKrmDEKSvxAYLJ55YeD+DrpemGk2hNoBqB7F0GghMFIKm w00PqwJHmrmEv4hnqBjg9v+bgquf4gZEWZC6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.55.2 with SMTP id s2mr5088136ibg.37.1315115919062; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 22:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.162.15 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:58:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:58:38 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Legacy OOo list post stats From: Jean Weber To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:47, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Jean Weber wrote: >> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:18, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber wrote: >>>> >>>> IMO, documentation.dev can be mapped to ooo-dev. That list was used >>>> for policy and infrastructure discussions, which would fit well on >>>> ooo-dev. >>>> >>>> I would like to see user-faq.authors mapped to ooo-userdocs, for >>>> reasons stated earlier, so I shall endeavour to find several >>>> moderators and a core group of list members. The list certainly >>>> fulfills the criterion of discussion on the legacy OOo list. >>>> >>> >>> Would it be worth generalizing this to a list that covers help, >>> documentation, training/tutorials,FAQ's, even support technology (as >>> opposed to support delivery)? =A0So something like ooo-user-services, o= r >>> ooo-infodev, or something like that? =A0If we really think that there >>> should be a better connection and sharing among these concerns, >>> getting them discussed on the same list might help encourage >>> cross-pollination. >> >> >> Yes, certainly the list should cover all content types (help, >> training/tutorials -- including video, FAQs, user guides, etc). To me >> "userdocs" does encompass all of those forms, but perhaps another name >> would convey that meaning better to other people. I'd be happy with >> (say) ooo-infodev or a similar name; I was just looking for the >> shortest variation that would work. (Aside: I wonder how common or >> well-known the phrase "information development" is outside of IBM. Not >> an important consideration, just idle curiosity.) >> >> I have no objection to including and encouraging the discussion of >> other forms of user support. It's probably a good idea to include >> them, to (as you say) encourage better connection and sharing. >> > > Great. =A0The name is less important than the intent to be inclusive of > these topics. =A0I was just a little concerned the the word "user" in > the list name might be a false attractor for users. VERY good point. We often got user-support questions sent to the "documentation" list, so having "user" in the name might make the problem worse. With that in mind, "ooo-infodev" or "ooo-docs" do seem like better choices. Anyone interested in producing user-oriented documentation can be directed to the list, and perhaps users looking for answers won't be attracted to it. > > I'd volunteer to moderate. OK, that makes two from North America, though it seems to me you have rather a lot on your plate already. A bit later, when the Europeans are stirring, we might hear from someone there. Meanwhile, I'll mention this at ODFAuthors. --Jean