Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B1488DCA for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45726 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2011 21:40:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45640 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2011 21:40:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 45632 invoked by uid 99); 7 Sep 2011 21:40:13 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:40:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RISK_FREE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [212.27.42.2] (HELO smtp2-g21.free.fr) (212.27.42.2) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:40:07 +0000 Received: from [192.168.50.45] (unknown [88.166.8.11]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167914B00BC for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:39:40 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4E67CE0E.5090601@laposte.net> References: <4E654A51.90508@laposte.net> <009601cc6ca5$1bbb11b0$53313510$@acm.org> <1315322952.1994.69.camel@sybil> <127E542A-2E40-4EF7-90E6-04FC48F01C75@free.fr> <4E67CE0E.5090601@laposte.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--30556726 Message-Id: <99ED69DF-0612-4E84-9EAF-627C61B75A83@free.fr> From: eric b Subject: [OT] What is needed for Support Forums to be fully integrated into the Apache OpenOffice.org project Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 23:39:35 +0200 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) --Apple-Mail-15--30556726 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi ****** , Le 7 sept. 11 =C3=A0 22:03, Hagar Delest a =C3=A9crit : > Le mar. 06 sept. 2011 17:36:10 CEST, eric b =20 > a =C3=A9crit : >> No, Hagar introduced his pseudo, not himself. >> I wonder how we can trust people we don't know the identity ? >> >> Regards, >> Eric > First note that I'm not a PPMC or haven't any other role for the =20 > moment in ASF. > Not verifiable, and pointless in the discussion. > The key persons in the forums and some in the ASF do know my identity. I read you consider some important people desserve to know your =20 identity, but not the "simple joe". > The ASF gives the possibility to get a public alias even when we =20 > sign the iCLA. That's a very bad thing. If so, it would mean some are the VIP ... =20 and the other people are "simple people" in the Apache Foundation ? > So it means that there is no issue with using an alias. That's part =20= > of the Internet. > We are not in the clouds, mention the bad side of the Internet is not =20= a good answer either, and FYI, this is no longer true : see the =20 current Google war around fake accounts: everybody must being =20 identifiable. Legally, I have even some doubts. > What would be the point knowing my identity? My real name has quite =20= > no visibility on the web because I don't have any occupation having =20= > a public aspect. Again, nobody, excepted not identified people you pretend aware, can =20 confirm. > I don't believe in Facebook and so on for example so no account. > I think my credential in oooforum and user.services forum is the =20 > only point to be taken into account. Imagine several people, all working in the same company, all paid to =20 provide support, and having the same login password ? I know I'm =20 exagerating, but there is no risk after all ... > Therefore I take your comment as rather insulting. > There is nothing insulting inmy comment, and well, I could say the =20 same about you. To be frank, more you insist, and more your behavior looks =20 suspicious. AFAIK, I read all people are equal in the Apache =20 Foundation, and there is sane legitimity to ask everybody in the =20 group to respect the minimum : being truely identifiable. The question is imho very important : is it allowed to cheat with the =20= identity, inside the Apache Foundation ? I sincerily expect the =20 answer is no. Eric Bachard > --=20 q=C9=94=E1=B4=89=C9=B9=C9=99 Education Project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news --Apple-Mail-15--30556726--