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From Hagar Delest <>
Subject Re: What is needed for Support Forums to be fully integrated into the Apache project
Date Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:23:00 GMT
Le lun. 05 sept. 2011 18:39:23 CEST, Rob Weir <> a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Hagar Delest<>  wrote:
>>> 2) We need to develop a privacy policy for the Forums, also to be
>>> reviewed by the PPMC and Apache legal
> I mean site privacy policy, meaning what information (cookies, etc.)
> and personally identifying information you track for registered users
> as well as casual visitors to the website.  This can sometimes be part
> of the Terms of Use document, but it is often in its own document.
> I assume you agree with this and your -1 was due to a misunderstanding.

>>> 6) Being listed as an "admin" or "moderator" on a public-facing Apache
>>> ...
>> -1. Same as Zoltan. Except if admins and moderators are PPMC themselves.
>> They are the ones who monitor the forum, know the users by reading their
>> posts and how they react.
> So you want  to continue picking your own admins and moderators,
> without ever consulting or reviewing these choices with the PPMC?
> I'm not sure that is really compatible with the idea of a project-wide
> meritocracy.  You do a disservice to your own volunteers if you do not
> bring them to the PPMC, show their valued contributions and allow this
> to be recognized.  Regardless of language, you should be able to say,
> in a sentence or two, what the volunteers have contributed, etc.  This
> is a key role for all PPMC members, to be on the watch for future
> Committers and PPMC members.  So I'm not sure your approach is really
> in the best long term interest of the project.
Read my comment: if current admins/mods are part of the PPMC then OK.
Who has the merit here? Isn't it the current staff that runs the forum for 4 years?

> What if we started with the admins?
>>> 7) Future grants of admin/moderator rights would require a proposal to
>>> ooo-dev seeking lazy consensus.  Such a proposal could originate from
>>> a forum volunteer or could originate from anyone on ooo-dev. This is
>>> no different than someone asking to be a moderator for a mailing list.
>> -1. Same as above.
> And for me, same as above.  I think this goes against a project-wide
> meritocracy.
Same as above, who has the merit?


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