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But deciding what to trust is no= t so easy. Sent with BlackBerry Work (www.blackberry.com) From: Thomson, Duncan > Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 9:39 PM To: Greenberg, Gary >, Leo Dona= hue > Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ IMHO it=92s a good thing to h Sent with BlackBerry Work (www.blackberry.com) From: Greenberg, Gary > Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM To: Leo Donahue > Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org > Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ Not JRE, Our company software certification program. From: Leo Donahue Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM To: "Greenberg, Gary" Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary > wrote: Visa is paranoid about security. I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech g= overnance approval and certification. There is a daemon on a system that enforces it. Certification group won=92t accept software without installer. I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to b= ypass certs Bypass certs? Do you mean certs in jre? by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine. I wasn=92t able to do it on Mac. From: Leo Donahue > Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM To: "Greenberg, Gary" > Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" > Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary > wrote: I certainly can unzip the file. Problem that due to company=92s security constraints I cannot run any downl= oaded application. I have to submit it for security assessment, but won=92t accept it without = installer. But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille. What are they afraid of? From: Geertjan Wielenga Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM To: "Greenberg, Gary" > Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" > Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ Yes, there=92s a PR for that. No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed. Personally though I don=92t get why a developer, even a complete newbie, ca= n=92t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, installer is = in the works. Gj On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary > wrote: Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) = into Netbeans distribution? --_000_SN6PR09MB368080E1D614A2E79927AB74AE730SN6PR09MB3680namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry that was meant to say: IMHO it=92s a good thing to have a policy to e= nsure only trusted software is installed.  But deciding what to trust = is not so easy.  


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From: Thomson, Duncan <duncant@mitre.org>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 9:39 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>, Leo Donahue <donahulf2@gmail.com>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbean= s 10+

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From: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 05, 2019, 5:04 PM
To: Leo Donahue <donahulf2@gmail.com>
Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org <users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: [EXT] Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10= +

Not JRE,

Our company software certification program.

 

Fro= m: Leo Donahue <donahulf2= @gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 5:01 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <users@netbeans.apache.= org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

 

 

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com> wrote:

Visa is paranoid about security.

I cannot run anything downloaded from the= web unless it went through tech governance approval and certification.

There is a daemon on a system that enforc= es it.

Certification group won=92t accept softwa= re without installer.

I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance app= roval and after that was able to bypass certs

Bypass certs?  

Do you mean certs in jre?

 

by installing IDE in my home directory on= Windows machine.
I wasn=92t able to do it on Mac.

 

From: Leo Donahue <donahulf2@gmail.com<= /a>>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

 

 

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Ga= ry <ggreenbe@visa= .com> wrote:

I certainly can unzip the file.

Problem that due to company=92s security = constraints I cannot run any downloaded application.

I have to submit it for security assessme= nt, but won=92t accept it without installer.

 

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille. = ; 

 

What are they afraid of?

 

From: Geertjan Wielenga = <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

 

Yes, there=92s a PR for that.

 

No JDK will be included and no JRE, since= these are GPL licensed.

 

Personally though I don=92t get why a dev= eloper, even a complete newbie, can=92t unzip a zip file and create a short= cut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

 

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com> wrote:

Is there are any plans to add installers = for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

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