From users-return-2484-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@netbeans.apache.org Tue Mar 5 20:57:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 221BD180648 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 21:57:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 2859 invoked by uid 500); 5 Mar 2019 20:57:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@netbeans.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@netbeans.apache.org Received: (qmail 2849 invoked by uid 99); 5 Mar 2019 20:57:42 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 20:57:42 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 8C6891808A3 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:57:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.299 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=googlemail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 37KAvd415xoI for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw1-f44.google.com (mail-yw1-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id B25CA6113B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-f44.google.com with SMTP id s204so8112473ywg.2 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 12:57:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=majOdda9Oma9gLjjo+VLPXYCBCP9/mHSJ4bUnjwtUcM=; b=OBJEz7PfzuaP9ui2igwkdBR8ayieVoWUQOlC6vTP4G8SFdq5ulCFJVnhbMM8GaD8YQ wWb6YwFFgo2nZN5EfXbYN7hY9dE7m/wFuDysnWr8Kd5M6cweNfB8ioRN6Z9qsEiV2ygf iMn0xJnEaly4Pl858IQfE6omN+2zjIPcJ9YsiUakUw/oh0WP0xtOdZvX8xclzbaRxqTP ihaPhecYLbVLM/tYgd6hxLNFbFw1Ay4/Csg3RlAxfPvxtd8cDhrPRBs2vJbrWWoSnvQq GSmIqgcjHWbFiIzcIdVga+XnJR/VlWEO8brADV1E/hbthyO0jnRw565+0qiRkOWAdnQ/ E6Zg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX6cDmc6x18txhFO2ixJOY50Pyvw74XnpY0+AOSkxnt7B6t9fVH c/7X5RMKf0A2XQXK38e7lS2kHoew0udtPG2KZ8FmBCeie+uBNQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxNM/MdQTO7MSrPW2shpQr0E9/bhqSQL7iQ1NkiNSzUb4qQxOayL4f0vX1BoUpGZtJQ4cveHoXMygH6/7sK6CQ= X-Received: by 2002:a0d:cc85:: with SMTP id o127mr2656217ywd.332.1551819460096; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 12:57:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Geertjan Wielenga Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:57:28 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trying out NB10 To: "Greenberg, Gary" Cc: NetBeans Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000acb6f705835f1f29" --000000000000acb6f705835f1f29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This might also mean something: INFO [org.netbeans.core.network.proxy.windows.WindowsNetworkProxy]: Windows system proxy resolver: auto - PAC (http://pacfile/visa.pac) Gj On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:55 PM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote: > And probably you have networking problems (maybe something with proxies o= n > your new machine), because when I put this into my browser, a license is > downloaded, while in your log file this throws network errors: > > > http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/files/nbms/licenses/B2B74E56.l= icense > > Gj > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:53 PM Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Probably the problems are related to having NetBeans unzipped in this >> folder: >> >> "C:\Users\ggreenbe\OneDrive - Visa Inc\Software\netbeans" >> >> Folders with spaces never work well on Windows. >> >> Gj >> >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:47 PM Greenberg, Gary >> wrote: >> >>> Because there are no installer for NB10, I couldn=E2=80=99t place it an= ywhere >>> but under my home directory. >>> >>> So, I created C;\Users\...\Software folder and unpacked archive there. >>> >>> I certainly do have all privileges in my home directory. >>> >>> Just few minutes ago NB froze again and I had to kill it through task >>> manager and restart. >>> >>> New log file doesn=E2=80=99t show any errors. Previous one does show mu= ltiple >>> network timeouts from unsuccessful attempts to download plugins. >>> >>> BTW, can you please post URL for the current plugin portal? I will try >>> to download some outside of IDE. >>> >>> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:04 PM >>> *To:* Greenberg, Gary ; NetBeans Mailing List < >>> users@netbeans.apache.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: Trying out NB10 >>> >>> >>> >>> You keep removing the mailing list from your responses, please don=E2= =80=99t, >>> there=E2=80=99s many others who could be helping, but you keep excludin= g them. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sounds to me like there=E2=80=99s some problem with permissions or the = general >>> setup of your new machine, though it=E2=80=99s impossible to know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Maybe attach a log file =E2=80=94 just keep the mailing list address in= your >>> responses, please. >>> >>> >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 23:00, Greenberg, Gary wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, >>> >>> This one I am trying on Windows 10. Dell Precision 5520, 8 cores, 32GB >>> RAM >>> >>> JDK 1.8-202 >>> >>> Regarding refreshing userdir =E2=80=93 I started from the brand new mac= hine. It >>> had nothing in it. >>> >>> I started installing Chrome, JDK, Postman and Acrobat. Netbeans was th= e >>> fifth piece of software installed. >>> >>> Userdir was supposed to be prestine. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:52 AM >>> *To:* Greenberg, Gary ; NetBeans Mailing List < >>> users@netbeans.apache.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: Trying out NB10 >>> >>> >>> >>> You claim to be =E2=80=9Cfar from the noob=E2=80=9D, yet you had to be = told to refresh >>> the userdir and you haven=E2=80=99t provided a description of your envi= ronment, >>> e.g., the JDK you=E2=80=99re using. What gives? >>> >>> >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:38, Greenberg, Gary wrote: >>> >>> I did delete my userdir and restarted NB. >>> >>> Authentication request is now gone, but I still can=E2=80=99t change me= nu fonts. >>> >>> I tried to set it to size 12, 10 and even 5. No affect whatsoever. >>> >>> See attached screenshot. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2019 8:32 PM >>> *To:* Greenberg, Gary >>> *Cc:* NetBeans Mailing List >>> *Subject:* Re: Trying out NB10 >>> >>> >>> >>> Can you start with a fresh user directory? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 04:03, Greenberg, Gary wrote: >>> >>> My previous laptop broke, so I got completely new one and trying to >>> build my development environment from scratch. >>> >>> Instead of NB8.2 which was working for me (with some glitches) for >>> several years I got the latest Netbeans 10 from netbeans.apache.org >>> >>> First start was unsuccessful. It displayed the start page and froze. Di= d >>> not respond to anything. I had to kill the process through the task man= ager. >>> >>> Second attempt was a bit better. At least it did not freeze. However, >>> all menus were displayed in huge font that occupy half of the screen. >>> >>> I went to Options->Fonts and Colors and tried to change the font from >>> size 27 to size 12. I was not able to do that as Netbeans popped me >>> =E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D >>> >>> window. No idea why it require authentication but I wasn=E2=80=99t able= to do >>> it. I tried my login credentials or the one I used to register a while = back >>> on netbeans.org but neither worked. >>> >>> Same thing happened when I tried to change some other settings. Can som= e >>> kind soul tell me how do I authenticate there. >>> >>> For the same reason I wasn=E2=80=99t able to download a single plugin. = Download >>> failed due to connection problems with plugin portal. When I tried to c= heck >>> proxy settings I got the same >>> >>> =E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D. >>> >>> So far NB10 wasn=E2=80=99t useful for me. >>> >>> I am far from the noob, only with Netbeans I am working for 20 years >>> (even before Sun Microsystems acquired it), but this release looks >>> half-baked to me. >>> >>> I do understand that Apache incubation will cause some disturbances, bu= t >>> did not expect so many problems. >>> >>> --000000000000acb6f705835f1f29 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This might also mean something:

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INFO [org.netbeans.core.network.proxy.windows.WindowsNetwork= Proxy]: Windows system proxy resolver: auto - PAC (http://pacfile/visa.pac)

Gj<= /div>

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:55 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com<= /a>> wrote:
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On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11= :53 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
=
Probably the problems are related to having NetBeans unzippe= d in this folder:

"C:\Users\ggreenbe\OneDrive - Vis= a Inc\Software\netbeans"

Folders with spaces = never work well on Windows.

Gj
On Tue, = Mar 5, 2019 at 11:47 PM Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com> wrote:

Because there are no installer for NB10, I c= ouldn=E2=80=99t place it anywhere but under my home directory.

So, I created C;\Users\...\Software folder a= nd unpacked archive there.

I certainly do have all privileges in my hom= e directory.

Just few minutes ago NB froze again and I ha= d to kill it through task manager and restart.

New log file doesn=E2=80=99t show any errors= . Previous one does show multiple network timeouts from unsuccessful attemp= ts to download plugins.

BTW, can you please post URL for the current= plugin portal? I will try to download some outside of IDE.

From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:04 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>; NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.= org>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

=C2=A0

You keep removing the mailing list from your respons= es, please don=E2=80=99t, there=E2=80=99s many others who could be helping,= but you keep excluding them.

=C2=A0

Sounds to me like there=E2=80=99s some problem with = permissions or the general setup of your new machine, though it=E2=80=99s i= mpossible to know.

=C2=A0

Maybe attach a log file =E2=80=94 just keep the mail= ing list address in your responses, please.

=C2=A0

Gj

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 23:00, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

Sorry,

This one I am trying on Windows 10. Dell Pre= cision 5520, 8 cores, 32GB RAM

JDK 1.8-202

Regarding refreshing userdir =E2=80=93 I sta= rted from the brand new machine. It had nothing in it.=

I started installing Chrome, =C2=A0JDK, Post= man and Acrobat. Netbeans was the fifth piece of software installed.=

Userdir was supposed to be prestine.<= u>

=C2=A0

From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:52 AM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>; NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.= org>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

=C2=A0

You claim to be =E2=80=9Cfar from the noob=E2=80=9D,= yet you had to be told to refresh the userdir and you haven=E2=80=99t prov= ided a description of your environment, e.g., the JDK you=E2=80=99re using.= What gives?

=C2=A0

Gj

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:38, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

I did delete my userdir and restarted NB.

Authentication request is now gone, but I st= ill can=E2=80=99t change menu fonts.

I tried to set it to size 12, 10 and even 5.= No affect whatsoever.

See attached screenshot.

=C2=A0

From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:32 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

=C2=A0

Can you start with a fresh user directory?=

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0

Gj

=C2=A0

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 04:03, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

My previous laptop broke, so I got completely new on= e and trying to build my development environment from scratch.

Instead of NB8.2 which was working for me (with some= glitches) for several years I got the latest Netbeans 10 from netbeans.apache.or= g

First start was unsuccessful. It displayed the start= page and froze. Did not respond to anything. I had to kill the process thr= ough the task manager.

Second attempt was a bit better. At least it did not= freeze. However, all menus were displayed in huge font that occupy half of= the screen.

I went to Options->Fonts and Colors and tried to = change the font from size 27 to size 12. I was not able to do that as Netbe= ans popped me =E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D

window. No idea why it require authentication but I = wasn=E2=80=99t able to do it. I tried my login credentials or the one I use= d to register a while back on netbeans.org but neit= her worked.

Same thing happened when I tried to change some othe= r settings. Can some kind soul tell me how do I authenticate there.<= u>

For the same reason I wasn=E2=80=99t able to downloa= d a single plugin. Download failed due to connection problems with plugin p= ortal. When I tried to check proxy settings I got the same

=E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D.=

So far NB10 wasn=E2=80=99t useful for me.

I am far from the noob, only with Netbeans I am work= ing for 20 years (even before Sun Microsystems acquired it), but this relea= se looks half-baked to me.

I do understand that Apache incubation will cause so= me disturbances, but did not expect so many problems.

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