From users-return-2485-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@netbeans.apache.org Tue Mar 5 21:04:19 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id D188B180648 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 22:04:18 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 19234 invoked by uid 500); 5 Mar 2019 21:04:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@netbeans.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@netbeans.apache.org Received: (qmail 19224 invoked by uid 99); 5 Mar 2019 21:04:12 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 21:04:12 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 74647C6E26 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 21:04:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.301 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.301 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, KAM_NUMSUBJECT=0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=googlemail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FkAAd9gR9kgA for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw1-f67.google.com (mail-yw1-f67.google.com [209.85.161.67]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 757755F4D5 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-f67.google.com with SMTP id n12so8087785ywn.13 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 12:55:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7BJDIuyXPr0ubqE1vqXkM480u352tT7/Bab1AwEgCQs=; b=Zn+UkTaIB4vihJl+3N37C/4HSKZTCS7H7K1/q1aocqxIeJ6R9CY3TS2KjSdJfk3WKe E0Beldp+KBTaAP5w3URkTf8xvrD25OqVb579eU2scA++UYmbYO1ZwJBvN79LGeeqBQ7V aVPaSiyYGIm4v1eyDLkAXDuCGGlmoAfF5EKrlXQE7eV9MwNmhqt0ZnFCFTIdFs5+jD0G 2enMcJITWCMV98YUdGNzCqS+essehl0QgdiAJeCAZ0HzrKYZQWp4JYCP9wR/VTeT3p6v xCGBv6iA+RhYua3nbvKvK7XnQmrU5zsUy8F1+QjfStOVgcDxx35MdaAr8TIyyxD1kaaX DQ5w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU71ixHu870McfUtWuKQvgUQxXsLye+duSDT0XCltF66Zf+Ylu1 /VPMzpOlMOfZRdleRnRhvQdiubxMpTQS24+kkYE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzz8SJxkachKbX2TWzwT5HKyl3oeoJ3ViHfsAgF/TNpuDeqM7WjgLbU2rT8rVyRs3zF1cCw6GVrsQwdcahwI6U= X-Received: by 2002:a25:5454:: with SMTP id i81mr3981279ybb.142.1551819326235; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 12:55:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Geertjan Wielenga Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 23:55:15 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Trying out NB10 To: "Greenberg, Gary" Cc: NetBeans Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b22a6d05835f1726" --000000000000b22a6d05835f1726 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And probably you have networking problems (maybe something with proxies on your new machine), because when I put this into my browser, a license is downloaded, while in your log file this throws network errors: http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/files/nbms/licenses/B2B74E56.lic= ense Gj On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:53 PM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote: > Probably the problems are related to having NetBeans unzipped in this > folder: > > "C:\Users\ggreenbe\OneDrive - Visa Inc\Software\netbeans" > > Folders with spaces never work well on Windows. > > Gj > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:47 PM Greenberg, Gary wrote= : > >> Because there are no installer for NB10, I couldn=E2=80=99t place it any= where but >> under my home directory. >> >> So, I created C;\Users\...\Software folder and unpacked archive there. >> >> I certainly do have all privileges in my home directory. >> >> Just few minutes ago NB froze again and I had to kill it through task >> manager and restart. >> >> New log file doesn=E2=80=99t show any errors. Previous one does show mul= tiple >> network timeouts from unsuccessful attempts to download plugins. >> >> BTW, can you please post URL for the current plugin portal? I will try t= o >> download some outside of IDE. >> >> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:04 PM >> *To:* Greenberg, Gary ; NetBeans Mailing List < >> users@netbeans.apache.org> >> *Subject:* Re: Trying out NB10 >> >> >> >> You keep removing the mailing list from your responses, please don=E2=80= =99t, >> there=E2=80=99s many others who could be helping, but you keep excluding= them. >> >> >> >> Sounds to me like there=E2=80=99s some problem with permissions or the g= eneral >> setup of your new machine, though it=E2=80=99s impossible to know. >> >> >> >> Maybe attach a log file =E2=80=94 just keep the mailing list address in = your >> responses, please. >> >> >> >> Gj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 23:00, Greenberg, Gary wrote: >> >> Sorry, >> >> This one I am trying on Windows 10. Dell Precision 5520, 8 cores, 32GB R= AM >> >> JDK 1.8-202 >> >> Regarding refreshing userdir =E2=80=93 I started from the brand new mach= ine. It >> had nothing in it. >> >> I started installing Chrome, JDK, Postman and Acrobat. Netbeans was the >> fifth piece of software installed. >> >> Userdir was supposed to be prestine. >> >> >> >> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:52 AM >> *To:* Greenberg, Gary ; NetBeans Mailing List < >> users@netbeans.apache.org> >> *Subject:* Re: Trying out NB10 >> >> >> >> You claim to be =E2=80=9Cfar from the noob=E2=80=9D, yet you had to be t= old to refresh >> the userdir and you haven=E2=80=99t provided a description of your envir= onment, >> e.g., the JDK you=E2=80=99re using. What gives? >> >> >> >> Gj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:38, Greenberg, Gary wrote: >> >> I did delete my userdir and restarted NB. >> >> Authentication request is now gone, but I still can=E2=80=99t change men= u fonts. >> >> I tried to set it to size 12, 10 and even 5. No affect whatsoever. >> >> See attached screenshot. >> >> >> >> *From:* Geertjan Wielenga >> *Sent:* Monday, March 4, 2019 8:32 PM >> *To:* Greenberg, Gary >> *Cc:* NetBeans Mailing List >> *Subject:* Re: Trying out NB10 >> >> >> >> Can you start with a fresh user directory? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gj >> >> >> >> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 04:03, Greenberg, Gary wrote: >> >> My previous laptop broke, so I got completely new one and trying to buil= d >> my development environment from scratch. >> >> Instead of NB8.2 which was working for me (with some glitches) for >> several years I got the latest Netbeans 10 from netbeans.apache.org >> >> First start was unsuccessful. It displayed the start page and froze. Did >> not respond to anything. I had to kill the process through the task mana= ger. >> >> Second attempt was a bit better. At least it did not freeze. However, al= l >> menus were displayed in huge font that occupy half of the screen. >> >> I went to Options->Fonts and Colors and tried to change the font from >> size 27 to size 12. I was not able to do that as Netbeans popped me >> =E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D >> >> window. No idea why it require authentication but I wasn=E2=80=99t able = to do it. >> I tried my login credentials or the one I used to register a while back = on >> netbeans.org but neither worked. >> >> Same thing happened when I tried to change some other settings. Can some >> kind soul tell me how do I authenticate there. >> >> For the same reason I wasn=E2=80=99t able to download a single plugin. D= ownload >> failed due to connection problems with plugin portal. When I tried to ch= eck >> proxy settings I got the same >> >> =E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D. >> >> So far NB10 wasn=E2=80=99t useful for me. >> >> I am far from the noob, only with Netbeans I am working for 20 years >> (even before Sun Microsystems acquired it), but this release looks >> half-baked to me. >> >> I do understand that Apache incubation will cause some disturbances, but >> did not expect so many problems. >> >> --000000000000b22a6d05835f1726 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And probably you have networking problems= (maybe something with proxies on your new machine), because when I put thi= s into my browser, a license is downloaded, while in your log file this thr= ows network errors:

<= div>
Gj

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:53 PM Geertjan W= ielenga <geertjan.wi= elenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
Probably the problem= s are related to having NetBeans unzipped in this folder:

"C:\Users\ggreenbe\OneDrive - Visa Inc\Software\netbeans"
=

Folders with spaces never work well on Windows.

Gj

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 11:47 PM Greenberg, = Gary <ggreenbe@vi= sa.com> wrote:

Because there are no installer for NB10, I c= ouldn=E2=80=99t place it anywhere but under my home directory.

So, I created C;\Users\...\Software folder a= nd unpacked archive there.

I certainly do have all privileges in my hom= e directory.

Just few minutes ago NB froze again and I ha= d to kill it through task manager and restart.

New log file doesn=E2=80=99t show any errors= . Previous one does show multiple network timeouts from unsuccessful attemp= ts to download plugins.

BTW, can you please post URL for the current= plugin portal? I will try to download some outside of IDE.

From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:04 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>; NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.= org>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

=C2=A0

You keep removing the mailing list from your respons= es, please don=E2=80=99t, there=E2=80=99s many others who could be helping,= but you keep excluding them.

=C2=A0

Sounds to me like there=E2=80=99s some problem with = permissions or the general setup of your new machine, though it=E2=80=99s i= mpossible to know.

=C2=A0

Maybe attach a log file =E2=80=94 just keep the mail= ing list address in your responses, please.

=C2=A0

Gj

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 23:00, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

Sorry,

This one I am trying on Windows 10. Dell Pre= cision 5520, 8 cores, 32GB RAM

JDK 1.8-202

Regarding refreshing userdir =E2=80=93 I sta= rted from the brand new machine. It had nothing in it.=

I started installing Chrome, =C2=A0JDK, Post= man and Acrobat. Netbeans was the fifth piece of software installed.=

Userdir was supposed to be prestine.<= u>

=C2=A0

From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 11:52 AM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>; NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.= org>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

=C2=A0

You claim to be =E2=80=9Cfar from the noob=E2=80=9D,= yet you had to be told to refresh the userdir and you haven=E2=80=99t prov= ided a description of your environment, e.g., the JDK you=E2=80=99re using.= What gives?

=C2=A0

Gj

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:38, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

I did delete my userdir and restarted NB.

Authentication request is now gone, but I st= ill can=E2=80=99t change menu fonts.

I tried to set it to size 12, 10 and even 5.= No affect whatsoever.

See attached screenshot.

=C2=A0

From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:32 PM
To: Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: NetBeans Mailing List <users@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Trying out NB10

=C2=A0

Can you start with a fresh user directory?=

=C2=A0

Thanks,

=C2=A0

Gj

=C2=A0

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 04:03, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

My previous laptop broke, so I got completely new on= e and trying to build my development environment from scratch.

Instead of NB8.2 which was working for me (with some= glitches) for several years I got the latest Netbeans 10 from netbeans.apache.or= g

First start was unsuccessful. It displayed the start= page and froze. Did not respond to anything. I had to kill the process thr= ough the task manager.

Second attempt was a bit better. At least it did not= freeze. However, all menus were displayed in huge font that occupy half of= the screen.

I went to Options->Fonts and Colors and tried to = change the font from size 27 to size 12. I was not able to do that as Netbe= ans popped me =E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D

window. No idea why it require authentication but I = wasn=E2=80=99t able to do it. I tried my login credentials or the one I use= d to register a while back on netbeans.org but neit= her worked.

Same thing happened when I tried to change some othe= r settings. Can some kind soul tell me how do I authenticate there.<= u>

For the same reason I wasn=E2=80=99t able to downloa= d a single plugin. Download failed due to connection problems with plugin p= ortal. When I tried to check proxy settings I got the same

=E2=80=9CAuthentication Required=E2=80=9D.=

So far NB10 wasn=E2=80=99t useful for me.

I am far from the noob, only with Netbeans I am work= ing for 20 years (even before Sun Microsystems acquired it), but this relea= se looks half-baked to me.

I do understand that Apache incubation will cause so= me disturbances, but did not expect so many problems.

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