From users-return-2493-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@netbeans.apache.org Wed Mar 6 01:01:06 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 824BF180648 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 02:01:05 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 46384 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2019 01:01:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@netbeans.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@netbeans.apache.org Received: (qmail 46374 invoked by uid 99); 6 Mar 2019 01:01:04 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Mar 2019 01:01:04 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id D789C182DCF for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 01:01:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.049 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.049 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kcYB2gTPbtbe for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 01:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qt1-f169.google.com (mail-qt1-f169.google.com [209.85.160.169]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 2F8A860DD8 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2019 01:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qt1-f169.google.com with SMTP id z39so11083397qtz.0 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 17:01:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qIZ9mcFQZTm6OwCzn6CkB4S7Bbns1roVq9UAi8RVxX4=; b=nSCmPaeL7/lWS4Dy5gxlO1ea1CirbZ0KMmQKdABJl80+hcbbZcy4RW3OO/NYpLzsD5 npWd1B/xKp/qTuUB20IQh3WZIs2ndZA+k+kjYz2cISmv1Ljg7wQPTLYAGAbFkyCFVY6h eFWObWZsmrFwD2/eeK2eXhSb2wkGXPI39K7sOnMMoaoM041x/dJ07X8/ouJPT+VR+hT3 Rp/QCvFmqZevWUJSz0eRD5X1rcDdkClqVFx3R+u9olR73wkcsvNEN9xoY0NLKroGsjQF HVKcJC/CmUV0qGrkcXjd37oJMpBvW9u9UQZSHaaA/bysAAQJ/I/yGYDZXuz5ruY43uVP uP1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qIZ9mcFQZTm6OwCzn6CkB4S7Bbns1roVq9UAi8RVxX4=; b=PDF0DPrde1kHvMAamtjAgvF6iRbkKuyp7ucr/pZjbjRq2yt8owyEJlpQ/v01H2RApu diGFr2KTgxWTdm4DoazuAhGT4aYxuQIQc/MrDLci0HK6k6zSDegpPo3OdkEBtYAas9cJ fjvZuW6E+R8VdgIIABeHCwq6DYrh4USu3+g88pA+KLLpEuWnPy8TaaXL/0xTFdrYg/Eo sxA2sVqrs4rL/VTL5rS0rSW9PGbBFwirR0KdO5VyHQ+S9kCBOgSJ6T4m+gq8xnHJUjLI /mstXfQvCzZarnadx5rDB62AvjzTz2URQdUfAmz0rGdzFt18wDJDIn0lWSFfIsEUFJVC eMEg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUyk/WVb6lZTgIjfL9fog0zVK+43Kwy0I5WBsBRfHyjuAUybWHa Q/sAeIu29LX5CKvOK1gtklPQH8uDIrTAkhVcZB8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyGnYob7o8W6iI0cOkOdS00S/Rj57XlA/q7PUiC0CKxIOF0lfvGll/hUEERJky+Qqyo1B4D54tMK30G6lyg/mM= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:2da3:: with SMTP id p32mr3745990qta.138.1551834061617; Tue, 05 Mar 2019 17:01:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <550DF667-426D-4B28-ABC8-289799F65C2E@visa.com> <679D85F3-4EE9-4561-BB55-8E4E3B2AA2CB@visa.com> In-Reply-To: <679D85F3-4EE9-4561-BB55-8E4E3B2AA2CB@visa.com> From: Leo Donahue Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 20:00:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ To: "Greenberg, Gary" Cc: users@netbeans.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fe40750583628598" --000000000000fe40750583628598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary wrote: > Visa is paranoid about security. > > I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless it went through tech > governance approval and certification. > > There is a daemon on a system that enforces it. > > Certification group won=E2=80=99t accept software without installer. > > I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and after that was able to > bypass certs > Bypass certs? Do you mean certs in jre? by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows machine. > I wasn=E2=80=99t able to do it on Mac. > > > > *From: *Leo Donahue > *Date: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM > *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" > *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" > *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary wrote: > > I certainly can unzip the file. > > Problem that due to company=E2=80=99s security constraints I cannot run a= ny > downloaded application. > > I have to submit it for security assessment, but won=E2=80=99t accept it = without > installer. > > > > But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille. > > > > What are they afraid of? > > > > *From: *Geertjan Wielenga > *Date: *Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM > *To: *"Greenberg, Gary" > *Cc: *"users@netbeans.apache.org" > *Subject: *Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+ > > > > Yes, there=E2=80=99s a PR for that. > > > > No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are GPL licensed. > > > > Personally though I don=E2=80=99t get why a developer, even a complete ne= wbie, > can=E2=80=99t unzip a zip file and create a shortcut. That said, yes, ins= taller is > in the works. > > > > Gj > > On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary > wrote: > > Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.dmg) and Windows (.msi= ) > into Netbeans distribution? > > --000000000000fe40750583628598 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 19:58 Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com> wrote:

Visa is paranoid about security.

I cannot run anything downloaded from the web unless= it went through tech governance approval and certification.<= /p>

There is a daemon on a system that enforces it.

Certification group won=E2=80=99t accept software wi= thout installer.

I pushed NB10 through Tech Governance approval and a= fter that was able to bypass certs

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Bypass certs?=C2=A0=C2=A0
Do you m= ean certs in jre?

by installing IDE in my home directory on Windows= machine.
I wasn=E2=80=99t able to do it on Mac.

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From= : Leo Donahue <<= a href=3D"mailto:donahulf2@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">= donahulf2@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 4:47 PM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <user= s@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

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On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 15:14 Greenberg, Gary <ggree= nbe@visa.com> wrote:

I certainly can unzip the file.

Problem that due to company=E2=80=99s security const= raints I cannot run any downloaded application.

I have to submit it for security assessment, but won= =E2=80=99t accept it without installer.

=C2=A0

But the Netbeans zip is no different than a war fille.=C2=A0=C2=A0<= /u>

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What are they afraid of?

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From= : Geertjan Wielenga &= lt;geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: "Greenberg, Gary" <ggreenbe@visa.com>
Cc: "users@netbeans.apache.org" <user= s@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Are installers planned for Netbeans 10+

=C2=A0

Yes, there=E2=80=99s a PR for that.

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No JDK will be included and no JRE, since these are = GPL licensed.

=C2=A0

Personally though I don=E2=80=99t get why a develope= r, even a complete newbie, can=E2=80=99t unzip a zip file and create a shor= tcut. That said, yes, installer is in the works.

=C2=A0

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Greenberg, Gary <ggreenbe@visa.com&g= t; wrote:

Is there are any plans to add installers for Mac (.d= mg) and Windows (.msi) into Netbeans distribution?

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