From users-return-1779-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@netbeans.apache.org Tue Oct 16 13:05:22 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C9CF180649 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:05:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 46334 invoked by uid 500); 16 Oct 2018 11:05:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@netbeans.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@netbeans.apache.org Received: (qmail 46324 invoked by uid 99); 16 Oct 2018 11:05:20 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:05:20 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 8150B180ADF for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:05:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.138 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.138 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1r7Tw9LaBcRW for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi1-f172.google.com (mail-oi1-f172.google.com [209.85.167.172]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 703A95F10F for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id p125-v6so17664502oic.3 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 04:05:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CQNzMsmzfjIWu6Y02bZzFLSk1lbiu4Thkvum00CPnPo=; b=Ni62nJa+UfbOteg5wq1fAszn6Yuta3gtx8nBDlyeCG5mlucJMeOQSiaEQVEw4AYsgD okCif4SgJ75c3KoNQzXCQa87leDJ3NdYZdYRb3LLEtlK8P7BNFDgFm+z+VHgzwC1f3Z6 FQv7Qw08tkzCDfIUIhEqzwiCGvdAz1d9arP/DgYmxqlxEarFqvLJSF0RGUco69MOxG6i Fr5EjmvmmECKXkc61eO8aRXZhVGLO/Ca2e1m27GqhOx0GSTjDfm36sS4SjiDrGvG0lBh wpQYeAARfoNd6cNu/49klL2Kqs7LiLtTCYeS2xv1indyApF+kA/J9IqHEb/cylLfdJDg SZMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=CQNzMsmzfjIWu6Y02bZzFLSk1lbiu4Thkvum00CPnPo=; b=JIO9sDvvd4qivvpYvOyuOGebvzt4uWpfiSrNqK2+1VTecq17gY6kq4Ph+aRnLd8oua KWhhrHrYPzAwM6zHXUo8FTFgSUw/u5gu4xJmwThqgXKJ5CHMw0vN1eSyLCJhTTjfFer6 qEWrKVBJxn0NHfdIj6pTRsUkJCXIil0WZ6z3KENXpy5Y3wSzXDyxZLtVOKhitbIHtkoB RH/jV4A7YG5ny8GWTjCVlSclFG8Q9deFaqKQKDPBwcl6O+IBOpwUYJH/fUFiRK6pxefs IxT/HaKeic/KeisvMem6OhWrjJHvlR7aI3fJAo8+qFXcwqkYZ60mfJiAM3PiZ3jbNl90 nSbA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoiCAF3B2cnpxTawYz1AcWYyTxXETI8eF7j5JwAY+1T5XqUIr7Cv l1w0zlimzjhJlmvd3sOG3Xm0Y9ilAteJcyW1VJhF444/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61OMQ91NfMfPDu5b2D2Xx+itf9K8i0vzSOsjLjKDPKjU7iUkR4W8g5aBaxbDTTEnvYduC9XF253Af2DKlul88c= X-Received: by 2002:aca:ce4c:: with SMTP id e73-v6mr11780595oig.225.1539687917708; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 04:05:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tom Arilla Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 13:05:05 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Fwd: History of one bug, or what is the attitude of NB devs To: users@netbeans.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000666ade057856872a" --000000000000666ade057856872a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Just please stop referring to these stupid surveys Geertjan, do you have a proof that they are stupid? I think not, just like I do not have a proof that they are wise. > (do you know anything at all about who filled in those surveys, for > example?) > Yes. Look into the link if you want. -- NetBeans has a community of users and that's who we're focused on > supporting. > Netbeans is mostly a general Java IDE. Aren't you pretending a little bit that it is not the case? > If there are missing features, file a bug report and ideally provide a > pull request to provide the fix. > Thank you for the information, but the thread started because of an essential bug ignored for many years. I will provide a patch for it, even that I am a bit afraid that it will be wasted. By the way, didn't you make a whole database of open bugs obsolete, with no migration attempts? > Thanks, > > Thank you as well, and all the best in making Netbeans better under the new formula. Happy transition. --000000000000666ade057856872a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>=C2=A0 Just please stop referring= to these stupid surveys
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Geertjan, do you have a proo= f that they are stupid? I think not, just like I do not have a proof that t= hey are wise.
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(do you know anything at all about who filled in those surveys= , for example?)

Yes. Look into the li= nk if you want.

-- NetBeans has a community of users and that's who we= 9;re focused on supporting.

Netbeans = is mostly a general Java IDE. Aren't you pretending a little bit that i= t is not the case?
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If there are missing features, file a bug report and idea= lly provide a pull request to provide the fix.=C2=A0

Thank you for the information, but the thread st= arted because of an essential bug ignored for many years. I will provide a = patch for it, even that I am a bit afraid that it will be wasted. By the wa= y, didn't you make a whole database of open bugs obsolete, with no migr= ation attempts?

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Thanks,

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Thank you as well, and all the best in making Netbeans = better under the new formula. Happy transition.

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