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Would the netcat@netbeans.apache.org mailing list be of use here? Eric Bresie ebresie@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 8:11 AM Kenneth Fogel wrote: > Yes, NetCAT is the best tool for determining functionality under a JDK. > Who should I communicate with concerning NetCAT? > > Ken > > ________________________________ > From: Geertjan Wielenga > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36:21 AM > To: dev > Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach > > Great progress, thank you, Ken. > > Maybe this is where NetCAT can come into the picture. > > Gj > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kenneth Fogel > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have learned that while we were listed on the OpenJDK Quality Outreach > > wiki page, we never received any correspondence because thee was > > uncertainty over who was the point of contact. This despite the fact that > > Geertjan appears as the point of contact in the wiki. > > > > I have asked Rory to replace Geertjan with me. I have asked him to better > > describe how they want reporting and what their colour coding means. To > me > > the wiki just lists projects that are actively testing against JDKs, > doing > > some testing, and no one is sure if testing is going on. The colour > coding > > is not about whether it works. > > > > What I think the wiki wants from us is that we can show that we are > > actively testing which versions NetBeans will compile under a specific > JDK > > and that it functions under that JDK. Once I get more clarification I > share > > it with the list. > > > > Ken > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jaroslav Tulach > > Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:52:43 AM > > To: dev@netbeans.apache.org > > Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach > > > > > Yes, we should, how? > > > > I'd like to point out that Geertjan is listed on the wiki page https:// > > wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach > > > > > Apache Netbeans Geertjan Wielenga > > > Use OpenJDK 12 EA b26 Phase 2 or higher and OpenJDK 11.0.2 > > > > as an Apache NetBeans contact providing feedback since JDK11! > > > > Given Geertjan isn't even aware of being part of the OpenJDK Quality > > Outreach > > program, we can estimate the importance of the program. However having > > Ken as > > an official NetBeans representative is certainly better, than not being > > there at > > all. > > > > Ken: > > > I suspect we might have caught the JEP 411 issue much sooner > > > if we participated in this. > > > > No we wouldn't caught it sooner. NetBeans blogging and social media > > campaign > > started the same week as JEP 411 was published. Participation in any > public > > forum couldn't speed the reaction up. > > > > Eirik: > > > Here are a couple of Windows LAF bugs that could be mentioned as > > impacting > > > NetBeans (as well as most other Swing applications): > > > > > > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8211715 > > > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8241561 > > > > > > I added workarounds for these ..., but there are still cases where a > > proper > > > fix at the OpenJDK level would look better. > > > > Well, create a PR for OpenJDK then! > > > > Overall I doubt participation in OpenJDK Quality Outreach forum can > > dramatically improve anything. Direct action is what counts: be it buzz > > over > > JEP-411 or submitting PRs for OpenJDK to make NetBeans work better (like > > https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/3939). Anyway having a channel to > > talk to > > OpenJDK is better for Apache NetBeans, than not having it. > > > > Good luck, Ken! Don't forget to update the wiki. > > -jt > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > --00000000000043995f05c4803d9c--