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From Kenneth Fogel <kfo...@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>
Subject Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach
Date Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:11:26 GMT
Yes, NetCAT is the best tool for determining functionality under a JDK. Who should I communicate
with concerning NetCAT?

Ken

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From: Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com.INVALID>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 8:36:21 AM
To: dev <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach

Great progress, thank you, Ken.

Maybe this is where NetCAT can come into the picture.

Gj

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 2:34 PM Kenneth Fogel <kfogel@dawsoncollege.qc.ca>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have learned that while we were listed on the OpenJDK Quality Outreach
> wiki page, we never received any correspondence because thee was
> uncertainty over who was the point of contact. This despite the fact that
> Geertjan appears as the point of contact in the wiki.
>
> I have asked Rory to replace Geertjan with me. I have asked him to better
> describe how they want reporting and what their colour coding means. To me
> the wiki just lists projects that are actively testing against JDKs, doing
> some testing, and no one is sure if testing is going on. The colour coding
> is not about whether it works.
>
> What I think the wiki wants from us is that we can show that we are
> actively testing which versions NetBeans will compile under a specific JDK
> and that it functions under that JDK. Once I get more clarification I share
> it with the list.
>
> Ken
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tulach@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2021 3:52:43 AM
> To: dev@netbeans.apache.org <dev@netbeans.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: OpenJDK Quality Outreach
>
> > Yes, we should, how?
>
> I'd like to point out that Geertjan is listed on the wiki page https://
> wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
>
> > Apache Netbeans       Geertjan Wielenga
> >  Use OpenJDK 12 EA b26 Phase 2 or higher and OpenJDK 11.0.2
>
> as an Apache NetBeans contact providing feedback since JDK11!
>
> Given Geertjan isn't even aware of being part of the OpenJDK Quality
> Outreach
> program, we can estimate the importance of the program. However having
> Ken as
> an official NetBeans representative is certainly better, than not being
> there at
> all.
>
> Ken:
> >  I suspect we might have caught the JEP 411 issue much sooner
> >  if we participated in this.
>
> No we wouldn't caught it sooner. NetBeans blogging and social media
> campaign
> started the same week as JEP 411 was published. Participation in any public
> forum couldn't speed the reaction up.
>
> Eirik:
> > Here are a couple of Windows LAF bugs that could be mentioned as
> impacting
> > NetBeans (as well as most other Swing applications):
> >
> > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8211715
> > https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8241561
> >
> > I added workarounds for these ..., but there are still cases where a
> proper
> > fix at the OpenJDK level would look better.
>
> Well, create a PR for OpenJDK then!
>
> Overall I doubt participation in OpenJDK Quality Outreach forum can
> dramatically improve anything. Direct action is what counts: be it buzz
> over
> JEP-411 or submitting PRs for OpenJDK to make NetBeans work better (like
> https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/3939). Anyway having a channel to
> talk to
> OpenJDK is better for Apache NetBeans, than not having it.
>
> Good luck, Ken! Don't forget to update the wiki.
> -jt
>
>
>
>
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