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From Sheng Zha <szha....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Ownership of discuss.mxnet.io
Date Thu, 18 Jun 2020 07:45:04 GMT
Hi Shane,

Thanks for the comment. With my apache hat on, I definitely agree that it would be better
to have such forum on Apache managed infra. I’ve started with discussion archive to ensure
that everything is recorded, and I think I can quickly try to make the backups of that forum
accessible to the PPMC and Apache infra.

I think the best way to achieve the goal of continuity, eventually, would be to host it on
Apache infrastructure and have its hosting funded by ASF. How do we go about requesting this?

As for the trademark review, we started working on reviewing the binary distribution usage
and are currently focusing on the more pressing issue there. We will get to the domain name
usage afterwards.

-sz

> On Jun 17, 2020, at 6:07 AM, Shane Curcuru <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2020/06/12 22:39:10, Marco de Abreu <marco.g.abreu@gmail.com> wrote: ...
>> The mxnet.io domain is not under control of the ASF. If we say that a user
>> facing platform is managed and endorsed by the PPMC, we should make it
>> available under the ASF domain system to further represent the official
>> affiliation. Also, it removes a weak link in the chain - e.g. the case when
>> the mxnet.io domain ran out and broke quite a bit of stuff. Since the ASF
>> offers subdomains for projects, I don't see any reason why not to use them.
> 
> This is the core issue for me, from the larger Apache perspective.
> Domain names using Apache marks - especially when they have interactive
> traffic about the Apache project itself - work best when the domain name
> itself is owned by the ASF.  That ensures continuity for the future, in
> the case where a party (which includes individual PMC members) stops
> contributing to the project.  When the ASF Infra team has direct admin
> access to a service or domain, we know that the ASF will be able to
> manage it for the future.
> 
> Also, has the PPMC worked with Apache Brand Management on use of
> trademarks in domain names?
> 
>  https://apache.org/foundation/marks/domains
> 
> -- 
> 
> - Shane
>  Director & Member
>  The Apache Software Foundation

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