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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:30:45 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate from incubator?
From: Jay Kreps <jay.kreps@gmail.com>
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That's awesome, Joe. So it sounds like the plan is to do a 0.7.1 release
and then pursue graduation? There were a few who just wanted to go for it,
any objection to waiting a bit to get this release out?

-Jay

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Joe Stein <cryptcom@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would be interested to drive a 0.7.1 release.
>
> On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Jun Rao <junrao@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, any committers outside of LinkedIn is interested in drive an
> > 0.7.1 release? That will help diversifying the community. It should be
> much
> > easier than the 0.7.0 release since most of the licensing issues have
> been
> > resolved.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jun
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Joel Koshy <jjkoshy.w@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think an 0.7.1 release would be suitable in any case given that there
> are
> >> few additional features and API changes since 0.7.0 - I can drive that,
> >> although an 0.7.1 release need not necessarily hold up pursuing
> graduation
> >> if people prefer (1).
> >>
> >> Joel
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Jay Kreps <jay.kreps@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is a fair point. I am not sure of the best practices on the number
> >> of
> >>> releases to do before graduation. The Incubator docs imply a fairly low
> >>> bar:
> >>> "Projects need to cut releases. Apache projects need to understand how
> to
> >>> cut Apache releases. Therefore it is an important step during your stay
> >> in
> >>> the incubator to demonstrate the ability to create an Apache Release.
> >>> Podlings
> >>> do not need to actually *publish* a release to demonstrate that they
> >>> understand how to accomplish such a feat. However, creating a release
> >> that
> >>> is approved by the incubator project management
> >>> committee<
> >>>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29
> >>>>
> >>> is usually the simplest way to do this."
> >>> (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases)
> >>>
> >>> They refer to "a release" not "releases", and mention that they don't
> >>> particularly care if you publish it or not. We might want to set a
> higher
> >>> bar for ourselves, though.
> >>>
> >>> We had planned on having 0.8 be the next release, and that is still a
> few
> >>> months out I suspect. However we did take a number of minor features
> and
> >>> fixes post 0.7 that are only on trunk it would probably be possible to
> >> do a
> >>> 0.7.1 without too much drama and that would make that work available to
> >>> people in a more easily consumable form . On the other hand it would be
> >>> nice to just be heads down and focus on 0.8 too. So if people agree
> with
> >>> Chris's feedback there are three options:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Pursue graduation now
> >>> 2. Do a 0.7.1 release, pursue graduation when that is completed
> >>> 3. Wait until 0.8 is out, pursue graduation after that
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have a strong preference for one of these options?
> >>>
> >>> -Jay
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Chris Burroughs
> >>> <chris.burroughs@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2012-05-23 23:32, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> >>>>>> We struggled a bit with licensing and packaging issues but we got
> >>> those
> >>>>>> issues resolved and did a release and this should be pretty easy
> >> going
> >>>>>> forward.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is the one point I am hesitant about.  I think it would be
> >>>> reasonable to ask us for a history of more than a single release (and
> >>>> I'm not sure we got the mirror situation 100% right yet).  We sure we
> >>>> got this one?
> >>>>
> >>>> For the more important parts, It's exciting to see the community grow
> >>>> (particular the diversity part, that's a great accomplishment and I
> >> know
> >>>> takes significant commitment).  On that note I would be interested in
> >>>> hearing from other committers about graduation.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>

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