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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:10:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate from incubator?
From: Neha Narkhede <neha.narkhede@gmail.com>
To: kafka-dev@incubator.apache.org
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I like option 1 since going with option 1 might make the next release go
smoother.

Thanks,
Neha

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Joel Koshy <jjkoshy.w@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think an 0.7.1 release would be suitable in any case given that there are
> few additional features and API changes since 0.7.0 - I can drive that,
> although an 0.7.1 release need not necessarily hold up pursuing graduation
> if people prefer (1).
>
> Joel
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Jay Kreps <jay.kreps@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is a fair point. I am not sure of the best practices on the number
> of
> > releases to do before graduation. The Incubator docs imply a fairly low
> > bar:
> > "Projects need to cut releases. Apache projects need to understand how to
> > cut Apache releases. Therefore it is an important step during your stay
> in
> > the incubator to demonstrate the ability to create an Apache Release.
> > Podlings
> > do not need to actually *publish* a release to demonstrate that they
> > understand how to accomplish such a feat. However, creating a release
> that
> > is approved by the incubator project management
> > committee<
> >
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29
> > >
> >  is usually the simplest way to do this."
> > (http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#releases)
> >
> > They refer to "a release" not "releases", and mention that they don't
> > particularly care if you publish it or not. We might want to set a higher
> > bar for ourselves, though.
> >
> > We had planned on having 0.8 be the next release, and that is still a few
> > months out I suspect. However we did take a number of minor features and
> > fixes post 0.7 that are only on trunk it would probably be possible to
> do a
> > 0.7.1 without too much drama and that would make that work available to
> > people in a more easily consumable form . On the other hand it would be
> > nice to just be heads down and focus on 0.8 too. So if people agree with
> > Chris's feedback there are three options:
> >
> > 1. Pursue graduation now
> > 2. Do a 0.7.1 release, pursue graduation when that is completed
> > 3. Wait until 0.8 is out, pursue graduation after that
> >
> > Anyone have a strong preference for one of these options?
> >
> > -Jay
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Chris Burroughs
> > <chris.burroughs@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > On 2012-05-23 23:32, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> > > >> We struggled a bit with licensing and packaging issues but we got
> > those
> > > >> issues resolved and did a release and this should be pretty easy
> going
> > > >> forward.
> > >
> > > This is the one point I am hesitant about.  I think it would be
> > > reasonable to ask us for a history of more than a single release (and
> > > I'm not sure we got the mirror situation 100% right yet).  We sure we
> > > got this one?
> > >
> > > For the more important parts, It's exciting to see the community grow
> > > (particular the diversity part, that's a great accomplishment and I
> know
> > > takes significant commitment).  On that note I would be interested in
> > > hearing from other committers about graduation.
> > >
> >
>

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