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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 13:46:02 +0300
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Subject: Re: Post-Sampler Timers
From: Shmuel Krakower <shmulikk@gmail.com>
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Well, that's just my own feedback / opinion.
It doesn't reflect others.

If the new implementation feels right, I'll adopt it, I just cannot see the
benefit of that, yet.
Neither I don't see the issue with having "Think Time" elements between
actions, such as: http://pasteboard.co/2BDxVS03.png
What do you mean by "...which makes test plan too
heavy." ?

Shmuel Krakower.
www.Beatsoo.org - re-use your jmeter scripts for application performance
monitoring from worldwide locations for free.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <apc4@ya.ru> wrote:

> But the sampler approach (test action is also a sampler) requires to
> have a pause element after each sampler, which makes test plan too
> heavy. Timers have scoping, this allows lean test-plan building. That's
> why I want to have post-sample timers.
>
> Andrey Pokhilko
>
> On 04/15/2015 03:12 PM, Shmuel Krakower wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I do exactly as ubikloadpack mentioned which makes things a lot easier =
to
> > look at.
> > I don't see much value with pre_sleep and post_sleep.
> > It would have been nice to have a "sleep sampler", which will reduce th=
e
> > need to create TestAction with Timer in it, as done today.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> >
> > Shmuel Krakower.
> > www.Beatsoo.org - re-use your jmeter scripts for application performanc=
e
> > monitoring from worldwide locations for free.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:37 PM, UBIK LOAD PACK Support <
> > support@ubikloadpack.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Very good idea !
> >> We always use the following strategy to have this  feature:
> >>
> >>    - Use TestAction with 0 sleep and nest in it the Timer. This way
> timer
> >>    pauses where it is located for the expected time and not
> SampleResult is
> >>    generated.
> >>
> >> So you idea would help as it is a bit harder to maintain.
> >> One note although, how would you handle scoping ?
> >> Would it stay as is ? If yes, won't code be difficult and clumsy ?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> @ubikloadpack
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Andrey Pokhilko <apc4@ya.ru> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> When I try to introduce JMeter to new people, I frequently see them
> >>> confused with our way to set "think times" before request. Especially
> >>> those who used to use some other testing tools, where think-time is
> >>> _after_ request.
> >>>
> >>> I personally think that think-time should be made after request,
> because
> >>> its duration depends on the results of the request. If you have got
> long
> >>> text as a result of your request, you supposed to spend some time
> >>> reading it. If you have short error message, you supposed to do your
> >>> next request much faster. The _delay_ time before request still makes
> >>> sense, because it allows manipulating throughput and synchronize
> >> requests.
> >>> I would like to contribute to JMeter following changes:
> >>>
> >>>  1. Add a property for Timers, marking them as "pre-sampler" or
> >>>     "post-sampler" timers
> >>>  2. Modify thread execution flow to call pre-timers and post-timers
> >>>     accordingly
> >>>  3. Modify timers UIs where it is reasonable, adding radio button to
> >>>     change timer mode
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Any thoughts/objections on this?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrey Pokhilko
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Ubik Load Pack <http://ubikloadpack.com> Team
> >> Follow us on Twitter <http://twitter.com/ubikloadpack>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cordialement
> >> L'=C3=A9quipe Ubik Load Pack <http://ubikloadpack.com>
> >> Suivez-nous sur Twitter <http://twitter.com/ubikloadpack>
> >>
>
>

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