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From Luciano Resende <>
Subject Re: Community Future
Date Wed, 05 Dec 2012 04:59:43 GMT
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Benson Margulies <>wrote:

> Folks,
> I feel that I have failed to explain the very large gap between the state
> of this community and the requirements for success.
> The Apache Board has asked the Incubator to make sure that podlings are
> making progress towards graduation. This podling has been in existence for
> a very long time, as podlings go. Unless there is a very big change, I
> cannot see how you will graduate.
> To graduate, you need to have, at least, a core group of people who are
> active. That means a steady stream of discussion and code activity, all the
> time.
> As of now, unless something changes, I, personally, will be proposing the
> retirement of this podling by the end of the year.
> I want to emphasize that 'retirement' is not a horrible outcome. Due to the
> wonders of the Apache License, any of you can take the code and do anything
> with it. All of you collectively could take the code to github and continue
> in your current fashion.
> What you cannot do is continue like this indefinitely.
> I'm very sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but this is the how the
> incubator works. The incubator exists to bootstrap communities, not as an
> indefinite home for projects.
> I will be first in line to applaud if this situation changes and you all
> construct a graduate-able community.
> Regards,
> benson

I'm starting to get convinced that people really only say and try to do
something when we threat to retire the project, and this is definitely not
sustainable. Based on this, I'm sadly shifting myself towards retiring the
project sometime soon.

Luciano Resende

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