From dev-return-100097-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@geronimo.apache.org Fri May 3 17:58:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id D498718064D for ; Fri, 3 May 2019 19:58:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 61525 invoked by uid 500); 3 May 2019 17:58:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 61509 invoked by uid 99); 3 May 2019 17:58:47 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 May 2019 17:58:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 67A93C36F7 for ; Fri, 3 May 2019 17:58:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wTb5YWnpdKD5 for ; Fri, 3 May 2019 17:58:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk1-f173.google.com (mail-qk1-f173.google.com [209.85.222.173]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 3B02C61115 for ; Fri, 3 May 2019 17:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-f173.google.com with SMTP id c14so414422qke.3 for ; Fri, 03 May 2019 10:51:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=v4JGRwMeMm0w0wRcDwxw2G3Sfr8u4/0Ey45gXOlYia4=; b=qRVMO8ViaoiC2V8HvtT3qHGsAqzSrWz+uCp48VznvVjr+zCZdB+coSlGe8oo8JkprE KR8CbxboTI5XaxJ+lrN+YJ5+UTGppvEPNxhpKRAru5ca1XESGYLZdFp762KssLNYRJPc 4i5yFc0c9Fe1vaPrJbG63+F3WGE5IAd6/Jr9slDQc1Eswt0LgwhVVGVqbTKNwaqRtG51 iupe039foEvtnXM4mNpmaiRCDr9+rs8dHLaFo4N4YesGl44LVeoGEr+cf08JkED6FgV8 IVzzWN4wlmHPjz5t1Nbq6zKUds4ekbQy6wIgUO8mdITX+7KyHicbKX/eKSMsOtjYGMnz NnfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=v4JGRwMeMm0w0wRcDwxw2G3Sfr8u4/0Ey45gXOlYia4=; b=t4e3IjdHnYr14mcRf6UcZuY9yrBAqxnzEDt9/HxXykf8BF/r/5xdPp3Gxz059OWJpr dwF2rf3Es11ZcpQlGT6kQ5lCcmHS7sbRxt5KmAoDIR8V/olo42QTpLxC2xfJ+pJ4LiVC GFOAu9gzzMHWriGxxbzoCX/Tko6YA4K42KNlATFZ+JENHAIDwUVsDYIDH1sUovBkVM6I y3V5oNrf1VrNt9VmcryLVpjzLA9QRD2XGUB4TAYdXYddXm3hzHolWH5grMjzNIYUdqWd RkpDHg/t5rvl1tICePKHu+NFSc/jucw1anDbIVd9fidhWzCx16ttWh+0YZFRWORT6FRk 0obA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX6mu6Vd08qAr84IOf+H4C/o9EVJEuNWjT0ZyKTJC+MGBunJajs JVwG49anId7KUDW8AcylwUwIpinIz/psVEfMXaithvQs X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwBqkQIpRxU2jKbxGxfZ6ea5qmmEoaJaOtC+v68fES9uyucSvQsBI63VGVZuy4rRPExZ2968F0cT4JoOArVWMM= X-Received: by 2002:a37:a907:: with SMTP id s7mr9304022qke.124.1556905906542; Fri, 03 May 2019 10:51:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <89C25331-028B-4C1E-84C7-60741C515953@yahoo.de> <9EAABA10-ECB6-4053-B7FD-8C901D9E3553@yahoo.de> In-Reply-To: <9EAABA10-ECB6-4053-B7FD-8C901D9E3553@yahoo.de> From: Romain Manni-Bucau Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 19:51:34 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] implement jakarta spec apis To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000821d6e0587ff6793" --000000000000821d6e0587ff6793 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm My understanding was it was getting under eclipse license as well and was fully donated but can have missed some details. If we cant reuse them let's just create new ones and fix module name for others. specs/ is fine since it is the same for us IMHO Le ven. 3 mai 2019 =C3=A0 18:24, Mark Struberg a =C3=A9= crit : > No, it is not the same. microprofile specs are licensed under ALv2 and we > know all the legal details. > For the EE specs this is by far not the same. We don't even know exactly > what parts did yet get donated by Oracle to the EF. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > > Am 03.05.2019 um 18:12 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau >: > > > > Hi > > > > Idnt it the exact same as for microprofile? So we dont do? > > > > Le ven. 3 mai 2019 =C3=A0 16:21, Mark Struberg a = =C3=A9crit : > > I've started tinkering something under specs/branches/jakarta. > > It's wip but have to rush out for a few hours now. > > Will continue later today. > > > > LieGrue, > > strub > > > > > > > Am 03.05.2019 um 15:50 schrieb Mark Struberg : > > > > > > hi folks! > > > > > > You might have read todays post from Mike Milinkovich. > > > > > > https://eclipse-foundation.blog/2019/05/03/jakarta-ee-java-trademarks= / > > > > > > It basically says that Jakarta will not be able to change a single bi= t > in the current spec apis under the javax.* package. > > > Any change has to be done in a different package. > > > The Jakarta people over at Eclipse already did some voting and the ne= w > package name will be jakarta.* > > > > > > Thus I would like to recommend to use our IP clean geronimo-specs to > setup a new project for the EE8 specs under the jakarta.* package name. > > > > > > I'll go forward and create a branch starting with the most important > specs. > > > > > > Any feedback and help is welcome! > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > --000000000000821d6e0587ff6793 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hmm

My under= standing was it was getting under eclipse license as well and was fully don= ated but can have missed some details.

If we cant reuse them let's just create new ones and fix= module name for others.

specs/ is fine since it is the same for us IMHO

Le ven. 3 mai 2019 =C3=A0 18:24, Mark Str= uberg <struberg@yahoo.de> a = =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
No, it is not the= same. microprofile specs are licensed under ALv2 and we know all the legal= details.
For the EE specs this is by far not the same. We don't even know exactl= y what parts did yet get donated by Oracle to the EF.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 03.05.2019 um 18:12 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@g= mail.com>:
>
> Hi
>
> Idnt it the exact same as for microprofile? So we dont do?
>
> Le ven. 3 mai 2019 =C3=A0 16:21, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> a =C3=A9crit :
> I've started tinkering something under specs/branches/jakarta.
> It's wip but have to rush out for a few hours now.
> Will continue later today.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 03.05.2019 um 15:50 schrieb Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de= >:
> >
> > hi folks!
> >
> > You might have read todays post from Mike Milinkovich.
> >
> > https://e= clipse-foundation.blog/2019/05/03/jakarta-ee-java-trademarks/
> >
> > It basically says that Jakarta will not be able to change a singl= e bit in the current spec apis under the javax.* package.
> > Any change has to be done in a different package.
> > The Jakarta people over at Eclipse already did some voting and th= e new package name will be jakarta.*
> >
> > Thus I would like to recommend to use our IP clean geronimo-specs= to setup a new project for the EE8 specs under the jakarta.* package name.=
> >
> > I'll go forward and create a branch starting with the most im= portant specs.
> >
> > Any feedback and help is welcome!
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
>

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