Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 52588 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2008 06:56:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Dec 2008 06:56:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 89808 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2008 06:56:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-geronimo-dev-archive@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 89448 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2008 06:56:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@geronimo.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@geronimo.apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list dev@geronimo.apache.org Received: (qmail 89437 invoked by uid 99); 5 Dec 2008 06:56:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:56:35 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS,WHOIS_MYPRIVREG X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of greensight@gmail.com designates 209.85.198.235 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.198.235] (HELO rv-out-0506.google.com) (209.85.198.235) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:55:05 +0000 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f9so121040rvb.4 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:55:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Gb81SqTn7+zqo5WsZILLy1sR9Q6n5xUxWcyvX4+BVKQ=; b=VmgFcCC/Oe8F2J6tyJy1Vi4YJ4Xj3vIn58iHeM7BoDI4lIXyqQ4i1sdt+h1FWinXDR Fc5GEg7M7HLqHzbUDCELNTeE9hTCKDxQpJFcyR2BVoTM2zlLEYSeiStpTO8d09thpjWc P0c1qVahqqM6DAxtRp72gtkr8OtHDDmjVsG+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=DpAb3nFmWFoSFxeiQnILr6dliKj5bWfRR5k0fejPByyQZZOSf6j+ijIpt4g1IhUQ9U 7QHv7loHz5bAX33z0iEcX4++toQ8EWUeQcbmb4LPwM6R6zgch0RdV+aFBhlb46F4XpyQ 7PzAtN5oyJVKRjFQTDVQwf1L39JulQ2/Z0+Bo= Received: by 10.114.12.9 with SMTP id 9mr9697701wal.216.1228460152358; Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.155.11 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Dec 2008 22:55:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5e7fd1eb0812042255l76b8a345n2b0e2a766c6880a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 14:55:52 +0800 From: "Jack Cai" To: dev@geronimo.apache.org Subject: Re: Update on documentation progress of Geronimo v2.2 In-Reply-To: <20830014.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24497_28128178.1228460152334" References: <98a659de0811132213q3c3ccdb8wb5e3f83e4ba42556@mail.gmail.com> <25b884430811202334i6279ce66h361c93a8cd46d3@mail.gmail.com> <3da992810811210628g628bbd23j41d6cc687c833ac4@mail.gmail.com> <20730864.post@talk.nabble.com> <25b884430811280127s1d82ef10seefcea27b8dfb6a7@mail.gmail.com> <4933FF70.5060605@apache.org> <20825778.post@talk.nabble.com> <3CE36B50-3EC1-4544-9FC5-C04181C2E9AC@yahoo.com> <20830014.post@talk.nabble.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_24497_28128178.1228460152334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I agree with David J. that 1, 2 and 3 should stay in the user doc, maybe as advanced topics. -Jack 2008/12/4 RunHua Chi > > Thanks David for your comments. > > I guess we have some different understandings regarding "Users" of > Geronimo.My understanding is that Geronimo is an application server and its > primary user would be application developers. While they might need to know > what a plugin or a gbean is in Geronimo but don't have to build the source > code. That's where my proposal comes from. And mostly they would read > GMOxDOC to learn how to utilize Geronimo for their application development. > > And we have another group of "Users"(actually I'd rather call them > "developers" ^_^), they are more interested in Geronimo structure, kernel > and keen on breakthroughs. In my understanding, they would go to GMOXDEV > for > more information. > > Any other ideas, please speak up. :) > > Jeff > > > > djencks wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2008, at 5:55 PM, RunHua Chi wrote: > > > >> > >> Do we need to move following topics to GMOXDEV as they are also > >> about how to > >> build > >> > >> 1. build a plugin as part of a maven build using the car-maven-plugin. > >> 2. install a plugin using the car-maven-plugin > >> 3. Assembling a server using Maven > > > > These all need to stay in the regular documentation. We expect many > > users to do all these activities every day, even if they don't build > > geronimo. > > > > thanks > > david jencks > >> > >> > >> If the answer is yes. Maybe we could have a page to collect all > >> informations > >> on how to build with maven at GMOXDEV?So far, I have some topics > >> coming up > >> my mind: > >> > >> a. build Geronimo source code; > >> b. build/install a plugin using car-maven-plugin; > >> c. build a new server from the existing one; > >> d. build GEP > >> ......and more > >> > >> Any comments? > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> > >> > >> Donald Woods-2 wrote: > >>> > >>> Agree. Using the eclipse/build.xml file from svn should go in the > >>> GMOxDEV space, as that is really only for developers. Maybe we could > >>> include a Note and pointer over to the Dev docs for anyone who is > >>> interested in using it. > >>> > >>> > >>> -Donald > >>> > >>> > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Update-on-documentation-progress-of-Geronimo-v2.2-tp20495528s134p20830014.html > Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ------=_Part_24497_28128178.1228460152334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I agree with David J. that 1, 2 and 3 should stay in the user doc, maybe as advanced topics.

-Jack


2008/12/4 RunHua Chi <chirunhua@gmail.com>

Thanks David for your comments.

I guess we have some different understandings regarding "Users" of
Geronimo.My understanding is that Geronimo is an application server and its
primary user would be application developers. While they might need to know
what a plugin or a gbean is in Geronimo but don't have to build the source
code. That's where my proposal comes from. And mostly they would read
GMOxDOC to learn how to utilize Geronimo for their application development.

And we have another group of "Users"(actually I'd rather call them
"developers" ^_^), they are more interested in Geronimo structure, kernel
and keen on breakthroughs. In my understanding, they would go to GMOXDEV for
more information.

Any other ideas, please speak up. :)

Jeff



djencks wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2008, at 5:55 PM, RunHua Chi wrote:
>
>>
>> Do we need to move following topics to GMOXDEV as they are also
>> about how to
>> build
>>
>> 1. build a plugin as part of a maven build using the car-maven-plugin.
>> 2. install a plugin using the car-maven-plugin
>> 3. Assembling a server using Maven
>
> These all need to stay in the regular documentation.  We expect many
> users to do all these activities every day, even if they don't build
> geronimo.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>>
>>
>> If the answer is yes. Maybe we could have a page to collect all
>> informations
>> on how to build with maven at GMOXDEV?So far, I have some topics
>> coming up
>> my mind:
>>
>> a. build Geronimo source code;
>> b. build/install a plugin using car-maven-plugin;
>> c. build a new server from the existing one;
>> d. build GEP
>> ......and more
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>
>> Donald Woods-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree.  Using the eclipse/build.xml file from svn should go in the
>>> GMOxDEV space, as that is really only for developers.  Maybe we could
>>> include a Note and pointer over to the Dev docs for anyone who is
>>> interested in using it.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Donald
>>>
>>>
>

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