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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 10:21:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: Resource Allocation ( was: Flex logo contest )
From: Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org>
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Peter Elst wrote:
>>... The situation is just that Apache works in
>> an open development model with volunteers and typically no compensation =
is
>> given.
>
> I believe that the ASF employs only =C2=A02 or 3 Apache Infrastructure wo=
rkers and an XA (part-time?)...

That's correct, and AFAIK those people are contracted, not employed,
but that doesn't really matter for this discussion.

The ASF budget is public, see
http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2011/board_minutes_2011_04=
_20.txt
for example, "attachment ak". Expense total on that budget is $611k
for one year with > 150 projects currently and *some* infrastructure
costs...that might put things in perspective, especially if you
compare with other open source organizations which have multi-million
dollar budgets (I'm not saying we're better - it's just a different
model).

>
> ...The ASF specifically does not pay for development on projects...

Yes - being independent from any corporate influences is a key part of
the ASF model, so as far as the ASF is concerned there is *never* a
contract between it an an individual or company about work being done
in one of our projects.

It doesn't mean resources are not allocated - but that happens
*outside* of the ASF. From the point of view of this project, anything
that happens here is voluntary.

-Bertrand