Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C2F200C26 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:47:29 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 36555160B5D; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 825A8160B50 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:47:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 73487 invoked by uid 500); 25 Feb 2017 16:47:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 73476 invoked by uid 99); 25 Feb 2017 16:47:22 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:47:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id B4AE5C07FD for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:47:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.38 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.38 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, NO_DNS_FOR_FROM=0.379] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iwHmGBZ2hvon for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net (smtp.justsomehost.net [204.11.51.157]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 349C25F56F for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B257F562D37 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.justsomehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id F2oiU3VGLu_U for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D864562E03 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.justsomehost.net Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.justsomehost.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id aQeu8I_y19io for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.justsomehost.net (smtp.justsomehost.net [204.11.51.157]) by smtp.justsomehost.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50254562D37 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:42:05 -0500 (EST) From: Joan Touzet Reply-To: Joan Touzet To: user@couchdb.apache.org Message-ID: <14959631.2909.1488041228852.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> In-Reply-To: References: <15217215.2200.1487815340266.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> <3953301.2412.1487890087614.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> <29604577.2769.1487979779350.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> Subject: Re: views failing due to fabric_worker_timeout and OS process timed out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [204.11.51.157] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.6.0_GA_1194 (Zimbra Desktop/7.2.8_12102_Windows) Thread-Topic: views failing due to fabric_worker_timeout and OS process timed out Thread-Index: LutOLxTcuIrO7TwLB2ejPi469vkRRw== archived-at: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:47:29 -0000 HI Aur=C3=A9lien, Your email is aggressive, and your apology is not accepted. I disagree that= a "significant part of the user base" needs this functionality, as do the = overwhelming majority of the PMC and the commercial entities on this mailin= g list.=20 This topic has been discussed to death on the mailing lists and I am not go= ing to be pulled into a retread of this argument. For the latest developer discussions on this topic, search for the words "D= eprecation Wishlist" in this message: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201702.mbox/%3CB6DB98E= C-42B1-4960-9E43-257F040238F1%40apache.org%3E You may also want to search on the word "NoJS". -Joan ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aur=C3=A9lien B=C3=A9nel" > To: user@couchdb.apache.org > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:33:38 AM > Subject: Re: views failing due to fabric_worker_timeout and OS process ti= med out >=20 > Hi Joan, >=20 > > couchapps are, in effect, deprecated functionality. >=20 > What do you mean exactly by saying this? > That CouchDB is now just a DB and no more an application server? > That all the time and code invested by my team and my partners since > 2010 are now wasted? > That I should stop immediately teaching CouchDB in my university as a > perfect example on how to implement a RESTful API and Web > application? >=20 > Which features needed for =C2=AB couchapps =C2=BB are going to disappear = in > future releases? >=20 > Is it a definitive decision? Or is it still possible to discuss it? >=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Aur=C3=A9lien >=20 > P.S. Sorry if my e-mail looks aggressive, but I=E2=80=99m really really > worried=E2=80=A6 > I=E2=80=99m surprised too to discover such an important news on a nearly > unrelated topic, whereas the last time the need for =C2=AB couchapps =C2= =BB > were discussed on the =C2=AB user =C2=BB list, a few years ago, there was= a > consensus that it was a really important feature for a significant > part of the user base.