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From: Walter Torres <walter@torres.ws>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:55:14 +0100
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Subject: Re: CouchDB as a windows service.
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Thanks for this tool!

It may help, but it looks promising.

Thank you

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Chad Cross <chadcross@gmail.com> wrote:

> Walter,
>
> Have you tried using procmon to watch the executable(s)?  It will record
> registry access, though I'm not sure if it will record that the app was
> attempting to access a key that does not exist, but it's definitely worth a
> shot!
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645
>
> -Chad
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Dennis Redfield <
> dennis.lee.redfield@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You really are at the mercy of the folks who wrote the installer, perhaps
> > they will chime in.  The Registry system is quite complex and is a
> > combination of keys required by the system: security, uninstall, service
> > installation and keys which are set uniquely by the application (I assume
> > this is what you intended when you said APP REG KEYS).  So your best bet
> is
> > to go back to the couchdb installation source, talk to the installation
> > authors and hit the books.
> >
> > BTW: The reason I asked your intent (i.e. your goal) was what you are
> > attempting to do is going to require some real effort - if do-able at all
> > and I was hoping that if I knew what you were trying to accomplish there
> > might be another way to achieve the goal.
> >
> > Question:  I understand (from the Wiki) that mySQL does NOT run as a
> > windows
> > service but as a process within the hosting application (e.g. as a linked
> > lib).  Is this not correct?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > dlr
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, August 4, 2011, Walter Torres <otrwalter@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, ok. I guess I should be very specific....
> > >
> > > When I refer to REG KEYS, I do not include KEYS that windows creates
> > > when a SERVICE is installed. To my referring to APP REG KEYS, not
> > > windows SERVICE REG KEYS
> > >
> > > Am I splitting hairs? I don't think so. SERVICE REG KEYS are not used
> > > by the app.
> > >
> > > When I installed "erlsrv.exe" as a SERVICE, windows created the
> > > SERVICE REG KEYS. It appears in the  SERVICES control and it allows me
> > > to attempt to start it.
> > >
> > > I believe that the error I am getting is because the app is trying to
> > > access an APP KEY of some kind.
> > >
> > > As for reading the installer code; well I did that for about an hour
> > > and nothing jumped out at me. But than, I'm not that  experiences with
> > > windows installer.
> > >
> > > That's why I asked in here. I was hoping someone who had experience
> > > with the windows would know about keys and might know a work around.
> > >
> > > I was really hoping that this group would be a bit different than
> > > other open source groups. I don't know why I would have that
> > > expectation. I ran into the same "resistance", the same "bewilderment"
> > > at the idea of not using an installer when I started working on apache
> > > and on nearly every Linux based app that has a windows binary.
> > >
> > > Maybe these replies are thinking they are helping, but read the
> > > replies again. Do they really help with the scenario given? Not from
> > > my POV. They read to me as just questioning my logic not addressing
> > > the issue.
> > >
> > > Does anyone gave any experience with windows? With how the app uses
> KEYS,
> > etc.
> > >
> > > I don't have the experience to correct any code and recompile a
> > > binary. And I think that is what will have to happen. I don't believe
> > > there is any reason, none, for the need of a REG KEY, and I'm not
> > > talking about any SERVICE REG KEYS.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any ideas or anyone with the bandwidth to look into this?
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > Walter
> > >
> > > On Aug 4, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Keith Gable <ziggy@ignition-project.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Aug 4, 2011 9:22 AM, "Walter Torres" <walter@torres.ws> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I have Apache and mySQL running, as a SERVICE, without REG KEYS.
> > >>
> > >> Impossible. You still have to have the service keys in the registry
> that
> > >> tell Windows how to start/stop services. Maybe CouchDB is attempting
> to
> > >> install this for you or expects to read settings from those keys. I'd
> > check
> > >> the source for the installer code and go from there.
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Trust No One
> >
>

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