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[68.194.34.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u16sm15425910qka.22.2016.01.20.16.24.41 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Jan 2016 16:24:41 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: User Questionnaire From: Michelle Phung In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 19:24:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <8554BB84-4CEB-4376-8D1A-CC021264428B@gmail.com> <5FDC41B6-DCF7-4A00-BBA1-E31A7BEE8059@gmail.com> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Nothing yet. I=E2=80=99ll get to it this weekend.=20 -Michelle > On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >=20 > Good idea: = https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Marketing+Questionnair= e >=20 > Michelle, did you get anywhere with that page in Fauxton? >=20 > Best > Jan > -- >=20 >> On 18 Jan 2016, at 11:00, Andy Wenk wrote: >>=20 >> Hey Jan, >>=20 >> this is a cool idea and will be very helpful. Google Forms will make = the >> job easily. >>=20 >> I have some further ideas for questions. Where do you think we should >> collect them? Maybe starting a Confluence page for that? >>=20 >> Cheers >>=20 >> Andy >>=20 >> On 17 January 2016 at 04:11, Michelle Phung = wrote: >>=20 >>> I think this is a really good idea. >>>=20 >>> Especially if it will highlight what people want/need. >>>=20 >>> I recently took a survey, and didn=E2=80=99t immediately close the = window only >>> because the interface was interesting/different < >>> https://workshape.typeform.com/to/PrMLrh>. >>>=20 >>> And if you like it, if you want, we can make our own CouchDB 2.0 one = here. >>> >>>=20 >>> One question I would ask is: >>> Do you know where to go for help/ learning/ on-boarding for >>> CouchDB? >>> AND >>> Is there anything you=E2=80=99d like to see? >>> AND >>> What do you find difficult to understand or code? (an open = ended >>> question for a short-could-turn-into-a-long answer) >>>=20 >>> (Sometime I meet people who don=E2=80=99t know what IRC is :X :O >>> omgomgomgwtfwtfomgHOW!!! :O) >>>=20 >>> As much as I hated it when i was younger (mostly because I didn=E2=80=99= t use it) >>> I am starting to see the value in documentation. I realize that our >>> documentation=E2=80=A6.is maybe a bit lacking. And I am realizing = that maybe it=E2=80=99s >>> because our documentation seems, overally=E2=80=A6.**official***=E2=80= =A6. and=E2=80=A6 maybe >>> sometimes >>> _-cryptic_%^//_. **NOT A BAD THING1** !! it=E2=80=99s = just=E2=80=A6(cringing here) >>>=20 >>> A lot of what i read for tutorials/introductions into a new library/ = new >>> method/ new database is a real voice, because it actually helps me = without >>> being ostentatious/way too technical/over assuming, y=E2=80=99know? >>>=20 >>> [Props to all those people writing blog posts and documentation !! = :] >>>=20 >>> I realize that that technicality and learning are the caveats and = part of >>> the job, but the experienced people already know how to learn, and = and and >>> but but but the newbies wouldn=E2=80=99t mind some more docs (even = if they don=E2=80=99t >>> read/admit to reading the entire thing). :) :D :D Can we ask how = many >>> people read the official documentations vs StackOverflow vs. >>> v/blogs/tutorials? Maybe if we publish the results, some volunteers = will >>> take action in the response to the responses? I realize how = optimistic I=E2=80=99m >>> here but, >>>=20 >>> Someone once said we are all: "Standing on shoulders of giants" >>>=20 >>> - Michelle >>>=20 >>> :) >>> :D !! >>> hi ! >>> ;D >>> o////// >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> PS. I really really like the idea of a link inside Fauxton leading = to >>> another page that is of the Fauxton + CouchDB updates. This is an = excellent >>> idea, absolutely. +10000 >>> I am going to try and add a link to Fauxton. Not sure about Futon; = I=E2=80=99ll >>> ask around for Futon. :) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ~~~~~ =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 = ####################################### =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94= =E2=80=94 ~~~~~ >>>=20 >>> Ground Control to Major Tom.. = >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Ground Control to Major Tom=E2=80=A6. >>> Ground Control to Major Tom=E2=80=A6. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Take your protein pills AND!!!!! put your helmet on. >>>=20 >>> [small and very much quieter] Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six, >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Commencing countdown, engines onnnnn=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6... >>> [Five, Four, Three] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Check ignition >>> [Two, One] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> and may God=E2=80=99s love <3 be with you, >>>=20 >>> [Blast-off] >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> ,: >>> ,' | >>> / : >>> --' / >>> \/ />/ >>> / >> __/ / >>> )'-. / >>> ./ :\ >>> /.' 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And to find out, I=E2=80=99m proposing we develop = a >>> questionnaire. We=E2=80=99ve done this once before, about six years = ago, and *a >>> lot* has changed since, so it=E2=80=99s a good time to do an update = (and then maybe >>> do this once a year or so :) >>>>=20 >>>> A questionnaire can give us insight into what people think about = and >>> want from CouchDB outside of the daily support requests and reported >>> issues. In addition, people can tell us how they use CouchDB and = that can >>> help the project make decisions on how to prioritise e.g. new = features. >>>>=20 >>>> I think using Google Forms/Docs for this is the easiest and I=E2=80=99= d be happy >>> to set this up, once we have a consensus on the content. >>>>=20 >>>> The two things I think are important to prepare are: >>>>=20 >>>> 1. What do we want to know? >>>> 2. How do we reach our users? >>>>=20 >>>> ## What do we want to know >>>>=20 >>>> This is mostly up to you, here are a few questions that I think = might be >>> useful to have answers to, I=E2=80=99m sure you can think of many = more: >>>>=20 >>>> - How have you heard of CouchDB? >>>> - How long have you used CouchDB? < 1 year, 1 y, 2y, 3y, 5y, >5y >>>> - Which version(s) of CouchDB do you use? 2.0 alpha, 1.x.x,.1.6.1, >>> 1.5.x=E2=80=A61.0.1? >>>> - Are you using any other software that replicates? If yes, which >>> one(s)? PouchDB, Couchbase, Couchbase Mobile [iOS, Android], = BigCouch, PHP >>> Replicator, Cloudant etc.? >>>>=20 >>>> - Are you using CouchDB for professional or private projects? >>>> - If you can share, what are some of the more impressive metrics of = your >>> projects, in terms of: >>>> - amount of data stored >>>> - number of documents >>>> - number of databases >>>> - requests / s >>>> - number of CouchDB servers >>>> - growth >>>> - stability >>>> - developer happiness >>>> - ops happiness >>>> - impact >>>> - =E2=80=A6 >>>> - If you are using CouchDB professionally, are you interested in = being >>> contacted about professional services? [email] >>>>=20 >>>> - What do you like most about CouchDB? >>>> - What do you like least about CouchDB? >>>> - What feature would you like to see added to CouchDB? >>>> - What feature could you live without? >>>> - What could be improved about the CouchDB documentation? >>>>=20 >>>> - If you are on 1.x, are you: >>>> - interested in the cluster-feature of 2.0? >>>> - interested in the Mango Query Language of 2.0? >>>> - not at all interested in 2.0? >>>> - =E2=80=A6 >>>>=20 >>>> - =E2=80=A6 and many many more (but not too many ;) >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ## How do we reach our users >>>>=20 >>>> This is just a list that came to mind, I=E2=80=99m sure there is = more we can do. >>>>=20 >>>> - Weekly News / blog >>>> - Apache mailing lists >>>> - Social Media >>>> - IRC >>>> - Press? (maybe database weekly?) >>>> - Cross-Promotion with family-projects like PouchDB >>>> - Can IBM help? >>>> - Futon/Fauxton >>>> - This is something I=E2=80=99d like to have seen for the longest = time: a page >>> in Futon/Fauxton that connects back to the project (that people can = opt out >>> of, if they want), but that allows us to post rare project news like = new >>> versions available, this questionnaire ^^, security advisories, etc. = Since >>> we are planning a 1.7 release, maybe we can add something to Futon = there >>> and into Fauxton for the 2.x builds (which would also help with = getting >>> feedback from the alpha/beta testers there). This should be too = hard, we >>> just need to agree on how we do it :) >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> * * * >>>>=20 >>>> I can=E2=80=99t wait to get your input on this! >>>>=20 >>>> Best >>>> Jan >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Andy Wenk >> Hamburg - Germany >> RockIt! >>=20 >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>=20 >> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc >=20