Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACCF718BE4 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42282 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2016 10:48:55 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 42233 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2016 10:48:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 42222 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jan 2016 10:48:55 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:48:55 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 28DA81A00DF for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:48:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.001 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.001 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 59p-zmPssLll for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from monoceres.uberspace.de (monoceres.uberspace.de [95.143.172.184]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 65FE1439A7 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 26100 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2016 10:49:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO ?10.0.0.11?) (127.0.0.1) by monoceres.uberspace.de with SMTP; 21 Jan 2016 10:49:07 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: User Questionnaire From: Jan Lehnardt In-Reply-To: <8554BB84-4CEB-4376-8D1A-CC021264428B@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:48:43 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0898782E-6D48-4520-AA94-E8E4F6FCEB01@apache.org> References: <688201B3-2B73-4254-B04D-2D2F10D7B4AA@apache.org> <8554BB84-4CEB-4376-8D1A-CC021264428B@gmail.com> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Oh, and in reply to the typeform suggestion. I agree it=E2=80=99s a = really slick interface, but it=E2=80=99s a for-pay service, so we=E2=80=99= d have to find a sponsor. In addition, I=E2=80=99ve used it in the past = and didn=E2=80=99t have the best experience, so I wouldn=E2=80=99t = recommend it, despite it being really slick for users. Best Jan -- > On 17 Jan 2016, at 04:02, Michelle Phung = wrote: >=20 > I think this is a really good idea. >=20 > Especially if it will highlight what people want/need. >=20 > I recently took a survey, and didn=E2=80=99t immediately close the = window only because the interface was interesting/different = . >=20 > And if you like it, if you want, we can make our own CouchDB 2.0 one = here. >=20 > One question I would ask is:=20 > Do you know where to go for help/ learning/ on-boarding for = CouchDB? > AND > Is there anything you=E2=80=99d like to see? > AND > What do you find difficult to understand or code? (an open ended = question for a short-could-turn-into-a-long answer) >=20 > (Sometime I meet people who don=E2=80=99t know what IRC is :X :O = omgomgomgwtfwtfomgHOW!!! :O) >=20 > As much as I hated it when i was younger (mostly because I didn=E2=80=99= t use it) I am starting to see the value in documentation. I realize = that our documentation=E2=80=A6.is maybe a bit lacking. And I am = realizing that maybe it=E2=80=99s because our documentation seems, = overally=E2=80=A6.**official***=E2=80=A6. and=E2=80=A6 maybe sometimes=20= > _-cryptic_%^//_. **NOT A BAD THING1** !! it=E2=80=99s just=E2=80=A6(crin= ging here) >=20 > A lot of what i read for tutorials/introductions into a new library/ = new method/ new database is a real voice, because it actually helps me = without being ostentatious/way too technical/over assuming, y=E2=80=99know= ?=20 >=20 > [Props to all those people writing blog posts and documentation !! :] >=20 > I realize that that technicality and learning are the caveats and part = of the job, but the experienced people already know how to learn, and = and and but but but the newbies wouldn=E2=80=99t mind some more docs = (even if they don=E2=80=99t read/admit to reading the entire thing). :) = :D :D Can we ask how many people read the official documentations vs = StackOverflow vs. v/blogs/tutorials? Maybe if we publish the results, = some volunteers will take action in the response to the responses? I = realize how optimistic I=E2=80=99m here but,=20 >=20 > Someone once said we are all: "Standing on shoulders of giants" >=20 > - Michelle >=20 > :)=20 > :D !!=20 > hi !=20 > ;D > o////// >=20 >=20 > PS. I really really like the idea of a link inside Fauxton leading to = another page that is of the Fauxton + CouchDB updates. This is an = excellent idea, absolutely. +10000 > I am going to try and add a link to Fauxton. Not sure about Futon; = I=E2=80=99ll ask around for Futon. :) >=20 >=20 >=20 > ~~~~~ =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94 = ####################################### =E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94=E2=80=94= =E2=80=94 ~~~~~=20 >=20 > Ground Control to Major Tom.. = >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Ground Control to Major Tom=E2=80=A6. > Ground Control to Major Tom=E2=80=A6. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Take your protein pills AND!!!!! put your helmet on. >=20 > [small and very much quieter] Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six,=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Commencing countdown, engines onnnnn=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6... > [Five, Four, Three] >=20 >=20 >=20 > Check ignition > [Two, One] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > and may God=E2=80=99s love <3 be with you, >=20 > [Blast-off] >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ,: > ,' | > / : > --' / > \/ />/ > / __/ / > )'-. / > ./ :\ > /.' ' > '/' > + > ' > `. > .-"- > ( | > . .-' '. > ( (. )8: > .' / (_ ) > _. :(. )8P ` > . ( `-' ( `. . > . : ( .a8a) > /_`( "a `a. )"' > ( (/ . ' )=3D=3D' > ( ( ) .8" + > (`'8a.( _( ( > ..-. `8P ) ` ) + > -' ( -ab: ) > ' _ ` (8P"Ya > _( ( )b -`. ) + > ( 8) ( _.aP" _a \( \ * > + )/ (8P (88 ) ) > (a:f " `" ` >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > This is Ground Control to Major Tom !!!!!!!! !!! ! >=20 > You=E2=80=99ve really made the grade :) :D :D !!! > And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear! [omg omg! camera = flashes =3D] > Now it=E2=80=99s time to leave the capsule if you dare.. >=20 > "This is Major Tom to Ground Control." > "I=E2=80=99m stepping through the door=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6." > "And I=E2=80=99m floating in a most peculiar way=E2=80=A6" > "And the stars look very different today=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80= =A6.." =E2=80=94.=E2=80=94.=E2=80=94.-- >=20 > :/=20 > :/ > :/ >=20 > :\=20 >=20 > :/ >=20 >=20 > For here > am I floating round my tin can..:( > Far above the world=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6. >=20 >=20 > Planet Earth is = blue=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6= =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2= =80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80= =A6.. :( :( :( > And there=E2=80=99s nothing I can do=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6= :{ >=20 >=20 >=20 > :( >=20 >=20 > :( >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > :(( >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > :/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > : )=20 >=20 >=20 > :D >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > !!!! >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Though I=E2=80=99m past one hundred thousand miles=E2=80=A6 >=20 >>>> I=E2=80=99m feeling very still. <<<< >=20 > And I think my spaceship knows which way to go=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6../ = [up!] > Tell my wife I love her very much (she knows!) :D :D :D :D :) >=20 > Ground Control to Major Tomm,,,, > Your circuit=E2=80=99s dead, there=E2=80=99s something wrong!!! >=20 > Can you hear me, Major Tom? :? > Can you hear me, Major Tom? :! > Can you hear me, Major Tom? :!!!!!!! > Can you hear=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6. >=20 > am I sitting in a tin can ???? > Far-rrrrrrrr above the Mooooooon=E2=80=A6 >=20 >=20 > Planet Earth is blue =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.. :( :( :( >=20 >=20 >=20 > And there=E2=80=99s nothing I can do =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6= =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 :( >=20 > :((((( >=20 >=20 > :( >=20 >=20 >=20 > : / >=20 >=20 > : | >=20 >=20 > .. >=20 >=20 > ... >=20 > . >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > . >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:46 AM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >>=20 >> Heyall, >>=20 >> in preparation for the 2.0 launch, it be great to know more about who = our end users are. And to find out, I=E2=80=99m proposing we develop a = questionnaire. We=E2=80=99ve done this once before, about six years ago, = and *a lot* has changed since, so it=E2=80=99s a good time to do an = update (and then maybe do this once a year or so :) >>=20 >> A questionnaire can give us insight into what people think about and = want from CouchDB outside of the daily support requests and reported = issues. In addition, people can tell us how they use CouchDB and that = can help the project make decisions on how to prioritise e.g. new = features. >>=20 >> I think using Google Forms/Docs for this is the easiest and I=E2=80=99d= be happy to set this up, once we have a consensus on the content. >>=20 >> The two things I think are important to prepare are: >>=20 >> 1. What do we want to know? >> 2. How do we reach our users? >>=20 >> ## What do we want to know >>=20 >> This is mostly up to you, here are a few questions that I think might = be useful to have answers to, I=E2=80=99m sure you can think of many = more: >>=20 >> - How have you heard of CouchDB? >> - How long have you used CouchDB? < 1 year, 1 y, 2y, 3y, 5y, >5y >> - Which version(s) of CouchDB do you use? 2.0 alpha, 1.x.x,.1.6.1, = 1.5.x=E2=80=A61.0.1? >> - Are you using any other software that replicates? If yes, which = one(s)? PouchDB, Couchbase, Couchbase Mobile [iOS, Android], BigCouch, = PHP Replicator, Cloudant etc.? >>=20 >> - Are you using CouchDB for professional or private projects? >> - If you can share, what are some of the more impressive metrics of = your projects, in terms of: >> - amount of data stored >> - number of documents >> - number of databases >> - requests / s >> - number of CouchDB servers >> - growth >> - stability >> - developer happiness >> - ops happiness >> - impact >> - =E2=80=A6 >> - If you are using CouchDB professionally, are you interested in = being contacted about professional services? [email] >>=20 >> - What do you like most about CouchDB? >> - What do you like least about CouchDB? >> - What feature would you like to see added to CouchDB? >> - What feature could you live without? >> - What could be improved about the CouchDB documentation? >>=20 >> - If you are on 1.x, are you: >> - interested in the cluster-feature of 2.0? >> - interested in the Mango Query Language of 2.0? >> - not at all interested in 2.0? >> - =E2=80=A6 >>=20 >> - =E2=80=A6 and many many more (but not too many ;) >>=20 >>=20 >> ## How do we reach our users >>=20 >> This is just a list that came to mind, I=E2=80=99m sure there is more = we can do. >>=20 >> - Weekly News / blog >> - Apache mailing lists >> - Social Media >> - IRC >> - Press? (maybe database weekly?) >> - Cross-Promotion with family-projects like PouchDB >> - Can IBM help? >> - Futon/Fauxton >> - This is something I=E2=80=99d like to have seen for the longest = time: a page in Futon/Fauxton that connects back to the project (that = people can opt out of, if they want), but that allows us to post rare = project news like new versions available, this questionnaire ^^, = security advisories, etc. Since we are planning a 1.7 release, maybe we = can add something to Futon there and into Fauxton for the 2.x builds = (which would also help with getting feedback from the alpha/beta testers = there). This should be too hard, we just need to agree on how we do it = :) >>=20 >>=20 >> * * * >>=20 >> I can=E2=80=99t wait to get your input on this! >>=20 >> Best >> Jan >> --=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20