Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D87AF182B3 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:46:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 64175 invoked by uid 500); 21 Sep 2015 13:46:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-couchdb-marketing-archive@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 64130 invoked by uid 500); 21 Sep 2015 13:46:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact marketing-help@couchdb.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list marketing@couchdb.apache.org Received: (qmail 64114 invoked by uid 99); 21 Sep 2015 13:46:13 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:46:13 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 1679BF4F41 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:46:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.179 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.179 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-us-east.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gR8trZww2PF1 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-f170.google.com (mail-qk0-f170.google.com [209.85.220.170]) by mx1-us-east.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-us-east.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 4337243B03 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qkfq186 with SMTP id q186so44614787qkf.1 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=DU0Ei8Bkdndokw8n0tH+sPGizoX/hfJI5AAofiiJkaA=; b=tI5kX5tQaZc8slbGZpa5N9xRzb3VoCpT5B2r3gF7E8eQBxMLKwSJ/uHwG26bH5FVwo KJQw/22ubTTIHEjtsOmsl6lEC6E187KBsqd6b7vCvdN9H9B3TdRyoylCYm/Bd49gxnQ/ /LxSA8Nqf5ScIlAGoeR+LGn+DNyfpokQBHC5vEi0MdCQVrVTf6QABLRPECA5jjqVKY55 1yGbqo2nx2UCH/vKKfANZ47pv2cNuTjvVFFY7Ksydqf0UoESMn2hISGUsYi1FZ1JzEro UoLwA34cit88FHnMn0zEg+BpwOiG/4cdnV0QzxB5RRMlO24huPiimFGqFPWpIJNAs5Tm 3JfA== X-Received: by 10.55.54.75 with SMTP id d72mr22644291qka.52.1442842755138; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:39:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.55.128.65 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Sep 2015 06:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: ermouth Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 16:38:55 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Trolling of Couchappers To: marketing Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11471748e30a0405204201a6 --001a11471748e30a0405204201a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear PMCs, I heartly ask you: stop trolling couchappers. It became even more annoying, then Jan=E2=80=98s direct assaults. If you want to kill the feature =E2=80=93 well, say when and in which amoun= t. If you can=E2=80=98t =E2=80=93 just say nothing. All these speeches, that you=E2=80=98re making kickass cluster are good. Bu= t when you start to say that you: * remove couchapp (which?) functions * possibly keep part of functions * remove them soon * remove them later * don=E2=80=98t remove them if someone start to support em. ... it=E2=80=98s just trolling. There is long german word, that means =E2= =80=98major version upgrade phobia=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 well, you, dear PMCs, made all yo= ur best to induce this phobia to couchappers. Because you troll them. Directly. Changing each other daily, like you=E2=80=98re on duty. All this crap like =E2=80=98watch me=E2=80=99 is just direct and sometimes = assaultive trolling. And I see it every freaking day here. Please, just stop. Dear PMCs, there is some obvious strategic consequences, that are clearly seen. Removing all these features when you roll out completely new version will lead you to: * nearly zero-size cluster fans community =E2=80=93 nobody knows about Couc= hDB cluster yet, but all know there is Couchbase that is 100x faster; * zero size couchapp community here; * enormous amount of harsh, cynical and very personal public critics, where newborn cluster will be on special focus. So think carefully, and then say what you removing and when =E2=80=93 or sa= y nothing. And anyway: please, stop trolling. ermouth --001a11471748e30a0405204201a6--