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From: Jan Lehnardt In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:45:40 +0200 Cc: private@couchdb.apache.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4EF8CFE9-C4F8-405A-BB61-802779704154@apache.org> References: <25739655.262.1439215594331.JavaMail.Joan@RITA> To: marketing@couchdb.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) I=E2=80=99d like to get this wrapped up and I propose a similar process = to what we did for the logo: 1. Have us (marketing@) come up with a few alternative approaches (all = addressing WHY, HOW, WHAT, split out in a Slogan (WHY), Mission = Statement (HOW) and Description (WHAT) that we can use all over our = messaging. 2. Put the candidates to a vote here on marketing@, the top 5-10 (if we = get that many) then go to a vote on dev@ 3. =46rom the vote result on dev@, the PMC then makes a decision on the = final set. It=E2=80=99d be great if we get this rounded up by ApacheCon EU = (that=E2=80=99s Sept 28), and because of that, I propose the following = schedule: marketing@ vote on Sept 15 (next Tuesday), gives us just under a week to = drum up a few alternatives dev@ vote on Sept 18 right after the marketing@ vote closes. There is no = more discussion at this point, this is an automatic procedure. PMC starts deciding from Sept 21, right after the dev@ vote and we=E2=80=99= ll try to get this wrapped by Sept 25, so we have a few days to spare, = and time to prepare materials for the 28th. All aboard? Best Jan -- > On 29 Aug 2015, at 11:56, Jan Lehnardt wrote: >=20 > (repost in the right thread, sorry about that) >=20 > Thanks for getting this discussion going again, Joan! >=20 > Here is where we discussed this last fall: Thread =E2=80=9CNew = motto?=E2=80=9D: http://apache.markmail.org/thread/6k6qtc65vtnse5ls = (incomplete results, because the MarkMail interface is weird, but should = get you the main parts) >=20 > In there, we follow the search for our WHY, which defines our HOW and = that in turn defines our WHAT (context = http://markmail.org/message/346bxv4v3sq7ofoj) >=20 > Noah summed up our discussion back then = (http://markmail.org/message/h2dm233yjuphtufw): >=20 >> WHY -- Getting your data where ever you need it (mobile, = geolocations, cloud, etc) >=20 >> HOW -- Sync protocol (with CouchDB as the reference implementation) >=20 >> WHAT -- Erlang, MapReduce, CouchDB Query, REST, JSON, JavaScript, = etc., etc. >=20 >=20 > The slogan we are looking for now is addressing the WHY and the WHY = only. The HOW and the WHAT also deserve treatment though, but these need = to live elsewhere. >=20 > Let=E2=80=99s attempt to organise this a little: >=20 > Project name: Apache CouchDB >=20 > Nickname: CouchDB >=20 > Slogan: Data where you need it. (WHY) >=20 > Mission Statement: Apache CouchDB aims to foster an ecosystem of = software that can flexibly share data with each other by defining a = universal synchronisation protocol. (HOW) >=20 > Description: CouchDB is the focal point of the Couch Sync Protocol = suite which is implemented by an ecosystem of projects that all work in = concert to fulfil a universal vision: being able to share and access = data where it has the most value, from cross data-center cluster to = mobile phones. CouchDB is an Erlang-implementation of the Couch Sync = Protocol with a strong focus on reliability, durability and scaling. = CouchDB uses HTTP for its API, JSON for documents, and a = developer-friendly query language and optionally MapReduce for efficient = data retrieval. (WHAT) >=20 > * * * >=20 > Let=E2=80=99s collect variations of this and counter examples, but = let=E2=80=99s keep the same form: > 1. Address the WHY, HOW and WHAT > 2. Define: Name, Nickname, Slogan, Mission Statement and Description = (we can rename the labels later, for now it is important to get the copy = text for the WHY, HOW and WHAT right). >=20 >=20 > * * * >=20 > FWIW: PouchDB nicked the =E2=80=9CThe database that syncs=E2=80=9D = from an email of mine on dev@ two years ago, when this was discussed = first (and kudos to them for realising it is a great slogan and running = with it!). I see no harm in the two projects sharing this, or = coordinating, e.g. CouchDB: The database that syncs. PouchDB: The = JavaScript database that syncs, or somesuch. (not saying this is a = proposal of mine, but if anyone wants to advocate it, I=E2=80=99d be = happy to listen and hear a proposal). >=20 > * * * >=20 > Thanks! > Jan > --=20 >> On 10 Aug 2015, at 16:06, Joan Touzet wrote: >>=20 >> Hey everyone,=20 >>=20 >> I don't know where we landed on this discussion last time, but I'm >> fairly sure we didn't come to any sort of agreement. >>=20 >> Our current tag-line for CouchDB is pretty unwieldy: >>=20 >> "Apache CouchDB is a database that uses JSON for documents, >> JavaScript for MapReduce indexes, and regular HTTP for its API" >>=20 >> With the addition of mango, it's also inaccurate. I'm sure we can do >> better! >>=20 >> Previously I remember seeing the suggestion: >>=20 >> "Apache CouchDB: The database that {replicates|syncs}." >>=20 >> I'm finding that really snappy. If you had to pick a single feature = that >> CouchDB does better than anyone else, it's the multi-master = replication. >> It does leave out a lot of great things we do, though. >>=20 >>=20 >> Here's the taglines of some of our "competitors": >>=20 >> "The Apache Cassandra database is the right choice when you need >> scalability and high availability without compromising performance." >>=20 >> "Apache HBase=E2=84=A2 is the Hadoop database, a distributed, = scalable, big >> data store." >>=20 >> "The Apache=E2=84=A2 Hadoop=C2=AE project develops open-source = software for reliable, >> scalable, distributed computing." >>=20 >> "CouchBase 3.0: A distributed database engineered for performance, >> scalability, and simplified administration." >>=20 >> "MongoDB: Agility, scalability, performance. Pick three." >>=20 >> "Redis is an open source, BSD licensed, advanced key-value cache and=20= >> store." >>=20 >> "Riak KV is a distributed NoSQL database that is highly available, >> scalable and easy to operate" >>=20 >> "ElasticSearch: Search & Analyze Data in Real Time" >>=20 >>=20 >> What other ideas do you have for a tagline for CouchDB? The only = rules >> are: one sentence, the shorter the better, and focused on CouchDB's >> unique strength(s). >>=20 >> -Joan >>=20 >>=20 >> Disclaimer: This is brainstorming only. The discussion may or may not >> lead to a new CouchDB tagline. Please, no negativity.=20 >=20 > --=20 > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: > http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/ >=20 --=20 Professional Support for Apache CouchDB: http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/